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Tainan · Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 120

I would think the first obvious question would be, what have these people done? Why are they being blacklisted in this manner? I wouldn't start calling it a witchhunt unless I knew the reason. After all, there are hundreds of foreign teachers in China. It would hardly be shocking to me if 24 of them did something criminal.

A Ver · Joined: 31 May 2003 Posts: 29 Location: España

sharonariel · Joined: 06 Jan 2011 Posts: 54 Location: Changzhou, Jiangsu

It says that he took 2,000 yuan from the school and didn't pay it back.

The Great Wall of Whiner · Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 4946 Location: Blabbing

How does a teacher take money from a school?

Do they have access to the vault? The safe?

Does the teacher know the code to the bank card for the school?

Was it in fact, given to the teacher?

TexasHighway · Joined: 03 Dec 2005 Posts: 779

He probably just pulled a midnight runner without paying the breach of contract penalty.

auchtermuchty · Joined: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 344 Location: Beijing

igorG · Joined: 10 Aug 2010 Posts: 1473 Location: asia

For me, the English version does not seem to work. Does it work for any of you on?

Also, I am wondering whether any of you have actually visited any of the SAFEA offices around the country. If so, what has it been like there? Just interested if the SAFEA officers listen to FTs and maybe even take them off this list if the reasons for blacklisting are explained and possibly justified.

clownshow · Joined: 19 Dec 2010 Posts: 181

There is one next to my office but they mainly seem to be there for recruiting and have no knowledge of a Blacklist.

wangdaning · Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 3154

That website is not a blacklist. It is only posting information. They say what the people did, but nowhere does it say they are blacklisted. It is a bulletin to transfer information. For example, To whom it may concern, John Doe worked at xxxx school in xxxx location and did xxxx thing. Hardly saying the person is barred from employment nation wide. Most of the post are not even about FTs, they are about procedures and such.

I think there are only a few ways to truly get blacklisted. For the province, anger the people who issue documents in the provincial office. Nationally you would have to piss off someone high up or do something that gets you barred from China altogether.

Just my opinion, no facts to back that up. Though I am sure these ways would work if you were looking to get blacklisted Laughing

dog backwards · Joined: 27 Jan 2011 Posts: 178

clownshow · Joined: 19 Dec 2010 Posts: 181

scampmeister · Joined: 16 Apr 2011 Posts: 11

http://teflblacklister.blogspot.com/

I think this is a great idea.

Happy Everyday · Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Posts: 268

Sounds like libel lawsuits in the making. In USA, it is illegal to try and prevent someone from getting a job.

Imagine a public list of negative postings about Hong Kong people? There would be outrage.

Teatime of Soul · Joined: 12 Apr 2007 Posts: 905

Sounds like libel lawsuits in the making. In USA, it is illegal to try and prevent someone from getting a job.

I'm not so sure. Does the salesman who needs to fly and suddenly finds himself on the "Do Not Fly" list have legal recourse now?

Or the new teacher who went out with some buddies, go drunk, and was caught urinating at 3 a.m. behind a bar - now on a sexual offender's registry.

The ABA disbars lawyers and the AMA takes away licenses of doctors.

And in some States, people on a "deadbeat dad" list are stripped of professional licenses, contractors, plumbers, etc., (and hunting and fishing licenses just to add some sting).

And that's just the lists you know about. Try being a whistle blower against a government contractor.

Cheers.