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PattyFlipper
Joined: 14 Nov 2007 Posts: 572
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:30 am Post subject: London surgeon held in Dubai after raising hands at motorist |
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London surgeon held in Dubai after raising hands at motorist:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/london-surgeon-held-in-dubai-after-raising-hands-at-motorist-2279128.html
"The man was following us flashing his lights. I was trying to abide by the speed limit and couldn't move out of his way. I pulled over when I could but instead of overtaking us, he pulled up alongside, switched the inside light on, rolled down the window and drove in parallel with us for up to a minute. He was looking at me in an intimidating way � I was quite terrified.
I raised both my hands to say, 'What do you want?' but he pulled back [to read the number plate] and then took off and turned right. He alleges I stuck a finger at him but I raised both hands. I am sure he must have seen them at an angle, and that was offensive to him." |
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helenl
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 1202
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 11:04 am Post subject: |
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For Pete's sake, how many people have to learn this lesson the hard way? Never, ever, make any gesture of any kind in traffic. I've been here 10+ years and there's always at least one stupid story like this in the newspaper of some Westerner being hauled in for stupidity - and I don't care that he did just raise both hands - he who gets to file the police report first gets credibility.
The only person I know who managed to circumvent this issue - got to the police first and filed a report of the other guy driving dangerously - when other guy arrived to complain about the first, the police treated other guy as guilty as charged (and other guy was an Emirati) and ignored his claims of having been flipped the bird. |
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D. Merit
Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 203
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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helenl wrote: |
I've been here 10+ years. |
And this medical professional, who probably does more important work in a week than we have done in a decade, was here on holiday.
Holidays - heard about those? To places where you might not be au fait with all the cultural norms but hope, if a country is touting itself incessantly via the world's media as a place that welcomes tourists, that there might be some sort of open mindedness around?
Scared, this gentleman raised his hands in a 'what's the problem' gesture and this testosterone fuelled loon knew exactly what to do next.
For goodness sake. Is tourism in this country really going to be eternally stuck at this point where we expats piously lecture any outsider for even the most minor miscalculation? '
Sometimes I think the self righteous western apologists who lurk in the corners here are actually more of a worry than the locals. |
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helenl
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 1202
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, was unaware that road rage was non existent in the UK. In my home country, I don't make gestures either because I'm aware there are lunatics who will beat the poop out of people they perceive to have wronged them.
The only difference in UAE is that they may be arrested for perceived inappropriate gesturing.
Which to choose, which to choose? |
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Dedicated
Joined: 18 May 2007 Posts: 972 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 12:01 am Post subject: |
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If the UAE authorities have any sense, they will let this man go immediately. The maniacal ,dangerous ,Emirati (?)driver presumably thought the driver was maybe a toilet cleaner, because he was non-white.
Dr Nunoo-Mensah (of Ghanaian origin but a British National) is a consultant colorectal and laparoscopic surgeon at the world ranked King's College, London University, and had been invited out to the UAE by the US Cleveland Clinic. He was therefore probably totally unaware of the driving habits of the locals.
Not only that, but his father is a senior minister and national security advisor to the President of Ghana. This will do the UAE no favours at all if they persist in detaining him. All the UK news is talking about this. Do they really want tourists in Dubai? |
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Sheikh N Bake

Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 1307 Location: Dis ting of ours
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 5:55 am Post subject: |
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The master plan for making Dubai look like a Star Wars city seems to have been imagined by 14-year-old boys in order to impress the rest of the world with its cool buildings (designed by people from outside the Middle East, of course) and eight-lane tollways.
Trouble is, a bunch of old women in black cloaks still seem to hold sway over public morals.
Late last month I rented a car in Dubai for three days, trying to find places I used to know when I lived there for five years. Every single block and every single corner in Dubai has construction on hold, with barriers everywhere, so you can never turn where you want to. No wonder there's a little road rage. Not only that, but a bare three days of driving around the city netted me $20 in toll costs. And I wasn't driving every waking moment. One day I barely used the car at all and the other days I was just running a few errands.
That's not all. What happened to the two main Corniches? The main shore along the Corniche Hyatt as well as the Mamzar Corniche are gone! What do I mean by "gone"? They've reclaimed the land from the Corniche out at least half a mile, so that you can't see the Arabian Gulf anymore. I suppose they want to build amusement parks there. What a disaster.
Dubai--land of barricades and a couple of cool buildings.
I'll say one thing, it's still the best and most convenient place in the Middle East for shopping. If driving is too much, take a taxi, and there's always a mall across the street or down the block. Not all malls are megasized either. I liked having the modest Reef Mall to myself on a weekday. To buy stuff in peace, I mean.
And the best international food in the Middle East--any good hotel. |
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volgaman
Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Posts: 30 Location: Middle East & North Africa
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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I always keep my lewd gestures for the nutters below window level
Has anyone here found a decent GPS app for the iPhone for Dubai? I have tomtom, but that's woefully out of date. I had to get a visa for Iran last week and it took me to the old embassy in Bur Dubai which had apparently closed its doors years ago. And it throws a fit when I drive across the new Khalifa Bridge in Abu Dhabi  |
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Sheikh N Bake

Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 1307 Location: Dis ting of ours
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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volgaman wrote: |
I always keep my lewd gestures for the nutters below window level |
I do too but last time I got carried away and almost crashed into one of those cranes. |
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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The master plan for making Dubai look like a Star Wars city seems to have been imagined by 14-year-old boys in order to impress the rest of the world with its cool buildings (designed by people from outside the Middle East, of course) and eight-lane tollways. |
I've always thought that if you asked Homer Simpson and Paris Hilton to get together to 'design' their 'Dream City' the end result would look very like Doo-buy. |
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Middle East Beast

Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 836 Location: Up a tree
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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helenl wrote: |
For Pete's sake, how many people have to learn this lesson the hard way? Never, ever, make any gesture of any kind in traffic. I've been here 10+ years and there's always at least one stupid story like this in the newspaper of some Westerner being hauled in for stupidity - and I don't care that he did just raise both hands - he who gets to file the police report first gets credibility.
The only person I know who managed to circumvent this issue - got to the police first and filed a report of the other guy driving dangerously - when other guy arrived to complain about the first, the police treated other guy as guilty as charged (and other guy was an Emirati) and ignored his claims of having been flipped the bird. |
Stupidity? I wonder who's really stupid here...you don't hesitate to call someone else stupid, but...it's not the writer who's stupid here...it's the law that would put him in such jeopardy. Besides, it's obvious it was a setup. |
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JohnRambo
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 183
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 2:21 am Post subject: |
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This does not surprise me. Some people from the Arabian Gulf feel superior to other Arabs and Westerners. They feel they have money, so it makes them a super race. A friend of mine in Kuwait was in an accident, and it was the woman's fault, and her husband tried every which way not to pay and told my friend to go back to Syria. He wasn't Syrian, he was Palestinian-Canadian. His Kuwaiti boss who had connections intervened and made the man pay some of the money. In Kuwait, when I lived there, it was not about who was right. You had to be careful and know your place. It would be the same in the UAE, and that's relatively true in many countries including places like Turkey and South Korea, unfortunately. Unless you are in Western Europe or America, be careful.
Yes, a country trying to promote tourism like the UAE should have this nonsense stop. |
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Sheikh N Bake

Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 1307 Location: Dis ting of ours
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Cleopatra wrote: |
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The master plan for making Dubai look like a Star Wars city seems to have been imagined by 14-year-old boys in order to impress the rest of the world with its cool buildings (designed by people from outside the Middle East, of course) and eight-lane tollways. |
I've always thought that if you asked Homer Simpson and Paris Hilton to get together to 'design' their 'Dream City' the end result would look very like Doo-buy. |
And of course it's boring for those two to have an actual view of the sea from the Corniche. Let's dredge it up so we can't see it and put an amusement park on it. |
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D. Merit
Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 203
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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A week ago I was about 10 yards from turning onto a main road - I hadn't even got to the intersection- and a woman behind me in a bin liner and an suv tank was beeping at me and gesticulating wildly.
But, oh, of course, it's OK because I live here and 'know how things are'.
Man - the two buckets. |
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volgaman
Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Posts: 30 Location: Middle East & North Africa
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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I had some scabby sod flashing and beeping behind me this morning on the Abu Dhabi- Dubai road in a bloody MITSUBISHI LANCER
Needless to say he wasn't a local, so he got the full gesture package as he passed. The look of horror on his face was so much fun that I overtook him back and gave him an encore  |
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