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Trevor Wadlow



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:53 am    Post subject: why bother teaching in the uk? Reply with quote

It is beyond me why anyone bothers teaching in the UK. I work in Shanghai where I earn (from IELTS examining and teaching combined), the equivalent of �500 per week, plus an apartment and my flight paid. Factor in the cost of living here and I would have to earn around �1,500 per week in London to have the same standard of living. When I go back to London in the summer I will work as a porter in a block of flats (if I need to). The longer you guys work at these schools in the UK the longer the wages will be low. Simple as that.
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TwinCentre



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is exactly....and I mean exactly what I would have written 10-15 years ago when I was a globe-trotting 20 something.

Alas, at nearly 40, I just want to live in the UK again...it's home. Not that I intend to do EFL/TEFL....but I understand why those who have no other choice might.....there comes a time for some people when you just don't want to be a foreigner any more, you don't want to stand out, you just want to blend back in. You might not feel that way, but one day you might (or not)..but surely you can see why some do.
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Hod



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a dilemma. People say I chose to work overseas because I was such a failure in the UK. Now if I go back to the UK, they will say I failed overseas.
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Trevor Wadlow



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:16 pm    Post subject: why bother teaching in the uk Reply with quote

TwinCentre wrote:
That is exactly....and I mean exactly what I would have written 10-15 years ago when I was a globe-trotting 20 something.

Alas, at nearly 40, I just want to live in the UK again...it's home. Not that I intend to do EFL/TEFL....but I understand why those who have no other choice might.....there comes a time for some people when you just don't want to be a foreigner any more, you don't want to stand out, you just want to blend back in. You might not feel that way, but one day you might (or not)..but surely you can see why some do.



Only forty! You're just a young whippersnapper. I am fifty seven this year and I am simply not prepared to be exploited in my own country any more. It angers me that I have to go abroad to be paid properly, but then I have become the kind of economic immigrant you see every day in London. The other solution to low wages is to set up on your own. You only need three or four students to be able to undercut the language schools.
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asalak



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting comments. If you're in UK FE ESOL, you can in some places earn 2 K/ month (and have time to top up with privates to the tune of another 500, but sadly this is now coming to an end as ESOL falls victim to the party of exploitation and their coalition partners-in-crime.

Being a foreigner anywhere involves a huge amount of identity work, so I fully understand why anyone would want to come back here -but the good times are over for ESOL, in my opinion, and EFL is a mug's game in the UK unless you're at a uni -and they're no longer as cushy and pay less than top-grade ESOL anyway.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"identity work"
Never heard that expression before ! WTF is it ?
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JimJam



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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
"identity work"
Never heard that expression before ! WTF is it ?


I think it's clear from the context.
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