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jibbs
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 Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 2:54 am Post subject: Giving the boot to the 60 plus crowd |
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I haven't read a thing really, but I hear the over 60 lot are being kicked.
Any word on this? |
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tributary
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| As they are not technically legally employable as they are not allowed to obtain a work visa or resident work visa permit, then where is the issue? |
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nickpellatt
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:14 am Post subject: |
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It will be interpreted differently depending upon province and guanxi, like everything.
I roomed with a 62 year old Aussie woman last year, and she had a Z/RP. Thats in a small town in Guanxi province. |
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mike w
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| As they are not technically legally employable as they are not allowed to obtain a work visa or resident work visa permit, |
Don't know where you glean this information from my friend, but it is so far from the truth.
Foreign experts can be employed until any age, as long as the provincial government applies the rules laid down by central government.
There is no legal upper age limit or retirement age stipulated by central government for foreigners. Many provinces apply their own rules for a variety of reasons. Even some schools make up and apply their own rules - perhaps they want to portray younger teachers, or they want to get rid of an older teacher. Maybe they are afraid of higher medical claims by the older foreigners.
This is something that has been checked very recently by the legal department in my company, and by a foreign colleague who is a lawyer in China. They have both confirmed that no upper age limit is applied by central government. In fact this company already has three foreigners on its books who are over 60 - one is over 70 - and all contracts are in the process of being renewed (got mine yesterday). |
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clownshow
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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| to the above post: Word! |
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mike w
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Texas:
Not everyone teaches in schools, colleges, and universities.
Ever heard of corporate training?
Note in my post I referred to my "company", not my school etc.
Some of our students are old enough to be the fathers of some of the foreign teachers in schools.
There are some companies who have had the foresight to employ their own full-time in-house teachers. |
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TexasHighway
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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| I understand your point, Mike. Actually, I was referring to an example from another thread and from what I have witnessed. This is a topic that has been discussed many times in this forum. |
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sistercream
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| And when you see a 75 year old woman teaching kindy? |
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Mr. Kalgukshi
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Inappropriate, off-topic and/or ageist postings have been deleted. If they continue, the thread will not and there will be sanctions. |
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jibbs
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:50 am Post subject: |
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| Just saying, I know a guy at my school, or 2 or 3, who are getting the boot now. |
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Ariadne
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It may be true that some schools, even some provinces, prefer to have teachers under 60. But, there are a whole heck of a lot of teachers over 60 working in China. I just signed a contract for next year. A friend was just hired by a nearby university and she's older than I am.
If I'm working illegally, it's news to me, to the school, to the provincial government, and the PSB.
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dog backwards
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Seventy is the new sixty! |
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mike w
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Seventy is the new sixty! |
There is no sixty or seventy!! |
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btsmrtfan
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| mike w wrote: |
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| Seventy is the new sixty! |
There is no sixty or seventy!! |
It does make you wonder then why you see ads such as a very recent one from Jiangxi Science & Technology Normal University (JXSTNU) on seriousteachers that includes:
"Due to Chinese working visa requirements we can only employee candidates aged under 60 years old" |
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