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victoryanne · Joined: 08 Apr 2011 Posts: 10 Location: United Kingdom

Hi,
I know this topic has been discussed many times.....but is it still possible to find work without a degree? I have been offered work with an F visa, which I do not want to do , as it's illegal.
What are the chances of me securing work by going to do voluntary teaching work through WWOOF China, and then applying for jobs in person in Beijing??
I have a two year degree, and will have some China experience, and was just wondering if private schools are still able to provide a Z visa, if they are willing/have good ganxi with the local authorities...?
Any ideas on what schools to approach, in Beijing, would greatly be appreciated!

tributary · Joined: 04 Apr 2011 Posts: 28

No offense, but if you know it's been discussed multiple times, then why are you raising the same issue resulting in the same answers?

The work requirements are clear. Entering China to do one thing but then look for a job is visa fraud. Two years of education is not a degree and does not meet the visa/resident permit/work permit requirements

Little Tiger · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:29 am Post subject:

You can find some schools but it will be hit and miss really, yes it is illegal but legal is a very vague term in China. While I would never recommend you to break the law, I would just lay out your terms to multiple schools. Someone like Aston will take you I'm sure, many of the larger language mills have people working on a Z-visa without having a degree - for example Aston branches are given 'degree templates' for hiring teachers that do no possess their own certificates.

Beijing might not be the best place to start looking though.

choudoufu · Joined: 25 May 2010 Posts: 3325 Location: Mao-berry, PRC

i'm afraid tributary is somewhat misteaken.

there's absolutely nothing wrong with coming to china on whatever
visa and LOOKING for work. you can apply as often as you like
without breaking the law. nothing says a touriste canna LOOK
for work. and nothing says a volunteer on an F visa (?) canna
apply to their heart's content.

to do the work however, requires (legally) the correct visa.

marmot · Joined: 22 Apr 2011 Posts: 14 Location: Shanghai

7969 · Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong

Non Sequitur · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China

Short answers.
Yes you can get teaching jobs without a full degree but some kind of post secondary qual is necessary ie vocational diploma or 2 -year associate degree. That was my situation but I had a foundation TESOL as well and that was more important in my view than my business diploma - at least from my confidence viewpoint.
As to the visa thing, get the proper documentation. - You have enough to do to get the job without the degree.

mat chen · Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 494 Location: xiangtan hunan

This is a land of entrapment. Even your post could be a trap by someone in China trying to get dirt on someone on this forum. If people can get into large multinational computers they sure as heil can find out who you are and what you are worth to them.
In other countries anyone can work at any university. It is the universities decision who teaches for them. Here it is the business of the Public Security bureau. Becareful!

choudoufu · Joined: 25 May 2010 Posts: 3325 Location: Mao-berry, PRC

dog backwards · Joined: 27 Jan 2011 Posts: 178

Mr. Kalgukshi · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:23 am Post subject:

Let's stay on topic. Let's also avoid targeting the messenger rather than the message. Finally, insulting other members here is not the thing to do. It can and does result in a permanent ban in a nanosecond.