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Captain_Fil
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Charlie Sheen is an enormously talented actor.
It is sad that he has degenerated into drug abuse, alcoholism, assault, crazy rants and conspiracy kookiness.
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Kornan DeKobb
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Dear John,
Not superhuman at all; it is pretty clear to see who was violating the TOS (although I'll grant that you may not have done it single-handedly).
KK
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| It is absolutely incredible how many here simply fall for the official fictions of so many historical events. |
I think it's absolutely incredible how many here go to considerable trouble to fall for the wildest possible fictional accounts of so many historical events.
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You mean like WMDs in Iraq, Iran-Contra, the Gulf of Tonkin, etc.? Oh yes, absolutely agreed.  |
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johnslat
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Kornan DeKobb,
Alas - it is not so "pretty clear" to me. Would you mind pointing out my violations?
Regards,
John |
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Kornan DeKobb
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| ^ Let's just say that the violations relate to addressing the poster rather than the post, aka "shooting the messenger" and/or "ad hominem." |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| That doesn't describe the Johnslat I know. Not by a country mile. Sorry. |
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johnslat
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Well, thanks Sasha - but Mr. DeKobb may have a point. I did refer to those who promulgate certain theories as "crazy." On the other hand, I also mentioned that we are ALL crazy in our own ways (including myself.)
The problem is that it's very difficult to separate one's ideas from oneself.
Or, as W.B. Yeats so beautifully put it:
"Labour is blossoming or dancing where
The body is not bruised to pleasure soul.
Nor beauty born out of its own despair,
Nor blear-eyed wisdom out of midnight oil.
O chestnut-tree, great-rooted blossomer,
Are you the leaf, the blossom or the bole?
O body swayed to music, O brightening glance,
How can we know the dancer from the dance?"
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wangdaning
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:51 am Post subject: |
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Thinking someone couldn't so blatantly steal from you as they walk away with your money is a bit more ridiculous than knowing people want to steal your money.
Lies work the same way. The bigger the lie the more people accept it. Especially when it comes from the Pres./PM, other country's leaders, and the media.
As far as Sheen being an anti-semite, when did that happen? |
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Captain_Fil
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:28 am Post subject: |
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Thinking someone couldn't so blatantly steal from you as they walk away with your money is a bit more ridiculous than knowing people want to steal your money.
Lies work the same way. The bigger the lie the more people accept it. Especially when it comes from the Pres./PM, other country's leaders, and the media.
As far as Sheen being an anti-semite, when did that happen? |
It happened when Sheen denounced and insulted the show's creator (who is Jewish).
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/24/sheen-assails-creator-of-two-and-half-men/#more-57526
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Kornan DeKobb
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:54 am Post subject: |
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| Well, thanks Sasha - but Mr. DeKobb may have a point. I did refer to those who promulgate certain theories as "crazy." On the other hand, I also mentioned that we are ALL crazy in our own ways (including myself.) |
But of course, that was not all: responding to a comment about this forum,
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| Unfortunately, clap-trap abounds. |
Also, instead of addressing the thread topic, you made entire posts exclusively talking about "crazy people," used mockery, or derailed the thread by making completely off-topic posts.
The latter might be more appropriate on the individual countries' fora where people may be stuck in some isolated backwater where Dave's may serve as a needed outlet, but I maintain that CE is different. It should be a place for more serious discussion of recent goings-on.
If one cannot follow the TOS (and this is a general comment), sanctions will be likely. |
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Kornan DeKobb
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| Captain_Fil wrote: |
| wangdaning wrote: |
Thinking someone couldn't so blatantly steal from you as they walk away with your money is a bit more ridiculous than knowing people want to steal your money.
Lies work the same way. The bigger the lie the more people accept it. Especially when it comes from the Pres./PM, other country's leaders, and the media.
As far as Sheen being an anti-semite, when did that happen? |
It happened when Sheen personally attacked the show's creator (who is Jewish).
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/24/sheen-assails-creator-of-two-and-half-men/#more-57526 |
You make it sound like he physically assaulted the man, when he merely criticized him in an interview. That that would constitute anti-Semitism is quite a stretch. Jews criticize other Jews all the time. Does that make them anti-Semites too? |
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johnslat
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Kornan DeKobb.
"The latter might be more appropriate on the individual countries' fora where people may be stuck in some isolated backwater where Dave's may serve as a needed outlet, but I maintain that CE is different. It should be a place for more serious discussion of recent goings-on."
I agree completely - unfortunately, by using the word "serious," you indict so many other posts on that thread.
"If one cannot follow the TOS (and this is a general comment), sanctions will be likely."
Again, I agree completely - and I'm so glad that you made it a "general comment" since, otherwise, that might leave the impression that you were
directing that comment at me.
Oh, wait - but all my comments were "general" ones, too.
Regards,
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Sashadroogie
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spiral78
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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It is absolutely incredible how many here simply fall for the official fictions of so many historical events. |
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| I think it's absolutely incredible how many here go to considerable trouble to fall for the wildest possible fictional accounts of so many historical events |
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| You mean like WMDs in Iraq, Iran-Contra, the Gulf of Tonkin, etc |
Mr. KK: Those were the 'official fictions' you excoriated above. The wild fictions I mentioned are (for those who've read the thread) even far less supported by any real evidence or even logic.
Generally, speaking, of course. |
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Captain_Fil
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Kornan DeKobb wrote: |
| You make it sound like he physically assaulted the man, when he merely criticized him in an interview. That that would constitute anti-Semitism is quite a stretch. Jews criticize other Jews all the time. Does that make them anti-Semites too? |
Sheen denounced the show's creator as "Chaim Levine". This is odd. His real name is Charles Levine.
Sheen even called him "Haim". This could be construed as "Hymie", which is a derogatory term for Jews.
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Kornan DeKobb
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:43 am Post subject: |
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It is absolutely incredible how many here simply fall for the official fictions of so many historical events. |
And I wrote:
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| I think it's absolutely incredible how many here go to considerable trouble to fall for the wildest possible fictional accounts of so many historical events |
KK:
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| You mean like WMDs in Iraq, Iran-Contra, the Gulf of Tonkin, etc |
Mr. KK: Those were the 'official fictions' you excoriated above. The wild fictions I mentioned are (for those who've read the thread) even far less supported by any real evidence or even logic.
Generally, speaking, of course. |
Good. I'm glad we could generally agree.
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| Sheen denounced the show's creator as "Chaim Levine". This is odd. His real name is Charles Levine. |
Are you sure his name is not Chaim? Have you seen his birth certificate?
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| Sheen even called him "Haim". |
Do you know how Chaim is pronounced?
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| This could be construed as "Hymie", which is a derogatory term for Jews. |
It "could be construed"? Like I said, a stretch. |
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