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bludevil96



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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 6:22 am    Post subject: Registering a motobike Reply with quote

Hi all,

Is it possible to register a bike in your own name? I'm getting mixed signals from different people about this. So far, I can have the condo in my name with my wife (V-national) but I can't register a bike in my name?

Thanks in advance.
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LettersAthruZ



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Location: North Viet Nam

PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Registering a motobike Reply with quote

bludevil96 wrote:
Hi all,

Is it possible to register a bike in your own name? I'm getting mixed signals from different people about this. So far, I can have the condo in my name with my wife (V-national) but I can't register a bike in my name?

Thanks in advance.


There have been a few threads on Dave's all about registering motorbikes in Vietnam......

GENERALLY (NOT always), if it is purchased new, you have to show a metric tonne of paperwork to do it, but, as a foreigner, yes, you CAN legally register a NEW motorbike in your name.

IF the scooter is second-hand.....nope. Cannot register it.
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bike is registered in my name - here's my experience and other rambling if you can deal with a page of it!

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=88025
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bludevil96



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 7:02 am    Post subject: Registering a motobike Reply with quote

Thank you, this is very helpful!
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Oh My God



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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: Registering a motobike Reply with quote

LettersAthruZ wrote:
bludevil96 wrote:
Hi all,

Is it possible to register a bike in your own name? I'm getting mixed signals from different people about this. So far, I can have the condo in my name with my wife (V-national) but I can't register a bike in my name?

Thanks in advance.


IF the scooter is second-hand.....nope. Cannot register it.


Here's a quote from my old buddy and ex-partner Texas_blu from another website which might prove helpful to some of you guys
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A recent encounter with a person wanting to sell his Honda, put me to thinking of some things that the buyer should know. As it turned out, he had a Honda Clone but was not aware of it. He practically accused me of lying to him. He had this "Majestic" but it was well fitted with every possible part and sticker that said "Honda" on it and it looked just like the real thing. A VN that he trusted had sold him the MB and told him that this was one of the "Chinese" Hondas - thus the difference. This is a total lie, there's a new "rube" born everyday in VN. Wink

BTW, all the "Hondas" available in VN are manufactured in China and/or VN these days, the only ones that are made in Japan now are for the lucrative American market. These Chinese/VN factories are supervised through out the ENTIRE process by the Japanese to ensure quality standards.

The 1 thing that the counterfeiters haven't figured out how to change is the "Motorbike Registration Certificate", at least not yet! This is what we call the ownership card. One side is greenish blue and the other is light blue. On the light blue side, you'll find most of the important info in both VN and English but mostly VN. Look for the part that says "(Brand)" if it doesn't have Honda, Yamaha, etc.. you've got a clone! The value is substantially less!

You'll also need to check the the engine # and chassis # to make certain you have the correct card and not be the victim of a switch-a-roo. Also, on the bottom left hand corner is the date of the first registration - this is what the VN's use to set the year of the MB.

To avoid complications, it's advisable to get a detailed written bill of sale and have the man take it to his local police to get them to put their stamp on it. Most VN's don't want to do this as they'll have to pay the full amount of tax but stand your ground to insist that he does. This'll make it MUCH easier to sell and take care of all ownership issues. Of course, only a VN can be the owner on the card BUT your name can be on the bill of sale. This makes you able to get it out of impound without the VN owner and proves that you have the right to sell it.

For your own interests, you should get the document translated to English and the translation notarized. In this way you can prove to the police that you knew what you were doing when you did it.

There you have it! Good luck and happy shopping.
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bludevil96



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 2:11 am    Post subject: Re: Registering a motobike Reply with quote

Oh My God wrote:
LettersAthruZ wrote:
bludevil96 wrote:
Hi all,

Is it possible to register a bike in your own name? I'm getting mixed signals from different people about this. So far, I can have the condo in my name with my wife (V-national) but I can't register a bike in my name?

Thanks in advance.


IF the scooter is second-hand.....nope. Cannot register it.


Here's a quote from my old buddy and ex-partner Texas_blu from another website which might prove helpful to some of you guys
Quote:
A recent encounter with a person wanting to sell his Honda, put me to thinking of some things that the buyer should know. As it turned out, he had a Honda Clone but was not aware of it. He practically accused me of lying to him. He had this "Majestic" but it was well fitted with every possible part and sticker that said "Honda" on it and it looked just like the real thing. A VN that he trusted had sold him the MB and told him that this was one of the "Chinese" Hondas - thus the difference. This is a total lie, there's a new "rube" born everyday in VN. Wink

BTW, all the "Hondas" available in VN are manufactured in China and/or VN these days, the only ones that are made in Japan now are for the lucrative American market. These Chinese/VN factories are supervised through out the ENTIRE process by the Japanese to ensure quality standards.

The 1 thing that the counterfeiters haven't figured out how to change is the "Motorbike Registration Certificate", at least not yet! This is what we call the ownership card. One side is greenish blue and the other is light blue. On the light blue side, you'll find most of the important info in both VN and English but mostly VN. Look for the part that says "(Brand)" if it doesn't have Honda, Yamaha, etc.. you've got a clone! The value is substantially less!

You'll also need to check the the engine # and chassis # to make certain you have the correct card and not be the victim of a switch-a-roo. Also, on the bottom left hand corner is the date of the first registration - this is what the VN's use to set the year of the MB.

To avoid complications, it's advisable to get a detailed written bill of sale and have the man take it to his local police to get them to put their stamp on it. Most VN's don't want to do this as they'll have to pay the full amount of tax but stand your ground to insist that he does. This'll make it MUCH easier to sell and take care of all ownership issues. Of course, only a VN can be the owner on the card BUT your name can be on the bill of sale. This makes you able to get it out of impound without the VN owner and proves that you have the right to sell it.

For your own interests, you should get the document translated to English and the translation notarized. In this way you can prove to the police that you knew what you were doing when you did it.

There you have it! Good luck and happy shopping.


Thanks OMG. I've done a little research on this. It appears that a lot of the regular manual Honda bike clones are in fact Chinese made. However, the upper scale model such as the SH comes from 3 areas. The real ones are made in Italy and are imported into VN. These are super expensive and hold their values quite well. The next best is imported from Japan. Physically, it's almost identical to the Italian version and is just as dependable. The most affordable and prevalent version is the S.Korea. You can tell these apart by the it's design. The newer version of the SK model is identical to the OLDER 1st generation version of the Italian SH (headlights+side panels). Wheelbase is identical. What some people have done is to buy stolen Italian SH parts and fitted into the Korean to fool people. Why? They want others to think they have money. The SK bike can be purchased for $600-700 in excellent condition, while a similar Italian are going for 9X that amount while the Japan version is hovering around the middle. The SK bikes are notorious for its maintenance record. You get what you pay for.

In 2009, Honda opened up an assembly plant here and therefore selling VN SH. They still import the Italian but it costs around $8,000+ versus a VN that costs 120M vnd. That's a big difference. The SH is the most stolen motorbike in VN. I have a temporary residency card so I will try to register it in my name. If not, I'll just defer it to my wife.
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