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Gary-Korea



Joined: 25 Apr 2011
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 12:41 pm    Post subject: Mexico help 2011 Reply with quote

Hi guys,

My girlfriend and I have a couple of years experience teaching English in South Korea. After a lot of thought, we have chosen Mexico as our next destination. I understand that we can enter Mexico on a 6 month tourist card and then apply for a FM3 visa once we have found a job. I have a few questions in regards to this:

1 - What documents will need to be apostilled in our own countries (UK and USA) in order to apply for the FM3 visa? I've heard original degree, birth certificate and criminal background check.

2 - Would it be advisable to get TEFL certified before applying for jobs? Can you recommend any good places to do this in Mexico?

3 - What type of schools are the best places to work in Mexico? I've heard universities can a be a good option. What are the entry requirements for these types of jobs?

Any help you can offer will be gratefully appreciated.
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Enchilada Potosina



Joined: 03 Aug 2010
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Location: Mexico

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Mexico help 2011 Reply with quote

Gary-Korea wrote:
Hi guys,

My girlfriend and I have a couple of years experience teaching English in South Korea. After a lot of thought, we have chosen Mexico as our next destination. I understand that we can enter Mexico on a 6 month tourist card and then apply for a FM3 visa once we have found a job. I have a few questions in regards to this:

1 - What documents will need to be apostilled in our own countries (UK and USA) in order to apply for the FM3 visa? I've heard original degree, birth certificate and criminal background check.

2 - Would it be advisable to get TEFL certified before applying for jobs? Can you recommend any good places to do this in Mexico?

3 - What type of schools are the best places to work in Mexico? I've heard universities can a be a good option. What are the entry requirements for these types of jobs?

Any help you can offer will be gratefully appreciated.

1. Usually the document that justifies you getting the visa i.e. tefl cert or relevant degree.

2. Yes. The CELTA seems to be highly revered here. Not sure where's best to take it though.

3. Unis pay well on the whole, the only problem is that you'll only be paid during the semester which leaves you broke during July, August and December unless you have another income. Unis usually pay according to your qualifications - the more the merrier.

Language schools will hire anyone foreign with a pulse. Pay and conditions are usually bad. Last port of call if you can't find anything else.
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Gary-Korea



Joined: 25 Apr 2011
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the quick response.

Unfortunately, I don't have a related degree but my girlfriend studied English. Therefore, would you recommend I completed a CELTA in order to get a better job? Would a TEFL certificate be just as good? This maybe cheaper.

So I would have to do a course, get the certificate, get this apostilled through the post and then look for jobs? It's a good job we managed to save a bit of cash in Korea!

I have another question, are there any possiblities for employment for foreigners away from teaching English? How about the possibility of starting a small business?
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Enchilada Potosina



Joined: 03 Aug 2010
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Location: Mexico

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gary-Korea wrote:
Therefore, would you recommend I completed a CELTA in order to get a better job? Would a TEFL certificate be just as good? This maybe cheaper.

The CELTA is useful as it has the magic door-opening word, 'Cambridge' written on it but I guess any tefl cert will get you a job in a language school. For unis I'd recommend a degree and a masters at least to get a decent salary (for 9 months of the year). If you can handle private school brats then a relevant degree will probably be enough. Pay in these places can range from a little to a lot but this is not really teaching per se.

Gary-Korea wrote:
I have another question, are there any possiblities for employment for foreigners away from teaching English? How about the possibility of starting a small business?

If you have the capital, the patience and the contacts anything is possible in Mexico.
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Isla Guapa



Joined: 19 Apr 2010
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Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enchilada Potosina wrote:

Gary-Korea wrote:
I have another question, are there any possiblities for employment for foreigners away from teaching English? How about the possibility of starting a small business?

If you have the capital, the patience and the contacts anything is possible in Mexico.


A good working knowledge of Spanish is essential too, don't you think?
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Enchilada Potosina



Joined: 03 Aug 2010
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Location: Mexico

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isla Guapa wrote:
Enchilada Potosina wrote:

Gary-Korea wrote:
I have another question, are there any possiblities for employment for foreigners away from teaching English? How about the possibility of starting a small business?

If you have the capital, the patience and the contacts anything is possible in Mexico.


A good working knowledge of Spanish is essential too, don't you think?

Absolutely, if not the most essential.
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have another question, are there any possiblities for employment for foreigners away from teaching English? How about the possibility of starting a small business?


Do you have a city or region of Mexico picked out already? In the larger cities there are more opportunities to teach English directly in companies, either through a language school with such a focus or working on your own (as a small business). Some people do the same in beach/resort areas in the tourism sector but it is a difficult market to crack for a number of reasons.
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Gary-Korea



Joined: 25 Apr 2011
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the input guys.

In answer to your question, I think we might settle in Guadalajara if everything works out for us. Nothing is 100% sorted though.

So what would be the requirements to work through a language school teaching in companies? Would an unrelated BSc and 2 years English teaching experience be enough or would it be in my own best interests to complete a CELTA/TEFL?

I'm at the stage now where I will need to send my degree certificate off soon to be apostilled. I need some advice as to whether this really will be worthwhile if I go down the root of doing the CELTA or TEFL. I had a thought about this and if I completed the English teaching qualification in Mexico and was given a certificate by a Mexican registered school then am I right in saying that this won't need to be apostilled?

Also, this would be used as the document to justify getting my FM3 from immigation, so am I also right in saying that there would be no need to get my degree certificate apostilled?

Thanks again for your help!
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Guy Courchesne



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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are correct in thinking that a CELTA or TEFL obtained in Mexico will not require an apostille and it is often the case that immigration only needs that certificate to process a work visa (and in some cases, no cert or degree at all is required, but don't bank on that).

However, it seems no two immigration offices within Mexico are the same. You would probably be best served by getting your degree apostilled anyway and bringing it, just in case even if unrelated to EFL or English.

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So what would be the requirements to work through a language school teaching in companies? Would an unrelated BSc and 2 years English teaching experience be enough or would it be in my own best interests to complete a CELTA/TEFL?


This is a rather broad area despite it seeming to be specific. You could probably get a job without any further training. Some employers will want to see the TEFL or CELTA. Experience in teaching and/or 'business' (meaning a lot of things)count for a lot, and because you'll be teaching in companies representing a language school, appearance and character are going to be important. In other words, they'll want you to dress the part, be knowledgeable, and show up on time. Wink

Guadalajara is a pretty good spot for a variety of EFL job types, including business English. If you're staying longer, cutting out the middleman and teaching in companies on your own can pay better...if this is what you meant by "starting a small business".
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