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TeacherInChina



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:54 am    Post subject: Job search from a foreign country... Reply with quote

I happened across this (see below) in a position that is advertised from Guangzhou. My understanding is that some jurisdictions may be more strict in certain policies than others. Is this a policy that is China-wide ?

In other words, has anyone successfully applied and gotten a position in China while on a tourist visa in another country ?


4. Application for your work permit and work visa issuing notice (government process time is about 3-4 weeks from application) for you to get the work visa in your home country. If you are in a foreign country to get the work visa, you are required to provide a resident permit/certificate in the foreign country.

Any experiences to share much appreciated.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my first work visa for China in 2004 in South Korea. Mind you, the rules have changed from what I understand.

As it stands now I just renew every year without need to leave.
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TeacherInChina



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I imagine that you were a resident/on e-2, no ?

That changes things. I was in Korea too, but now i'm
job hunting from another country that is not my home
country.

So, in your case, you would be able to produce an ARC.

I'm trying to make the jump to China as well, but It is taking
longer than expected.

Will you ever return to the ROK?
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeacherInChina wrote:
I imagine that you were a resident/on e-2, no ?


Yes, good point. I was.


Quote:
Will you ever return to the ROK?


Absolutely never.
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warda



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in a similar position. I'm working in Thailand until the end of July and in contact with a uni in Henan for a mid-August start.

They told me that I had two options to get the visa:

1. Make a trip home

2. Do it in Hong Kong.

I haven't heard anything about a 3-4 week wait time. If true, it would be impossible to work out my timing.

Hope the info helps the OP anyway...
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TeacherInChina



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

warda wrote:
I'm in a similar position. I'm working in Thailand until the end of July and in contact with a uni in Henan for a mid-August start.

They told me that I had two options to get the visa:

1. Make a trip home

2. Do it in Hong Kong.

I haven't heard anything about a 3-4 week wait time. If true, it would be impossible to work out my timing.

Hope the info helps the OP anyway...


Yeah, it does !

The 3-4 weeks is posted in a job advert, I don't know if the qouted time frame is accurate.

So, they stated that the z visa would have to be processed at the consulate in Hong Kong and could not be done in Bangkok ? Correct ?

If i have to do this, I will, begrudgingly...

Perhaps others have had a different experience with a different provincial authority ?
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TeacherInChina



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Will you ever return to the ROK?


Absolutely never.[/quote]


ha ha, no need to equivocate !
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Cairnsman



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In July 2008, my new university mailed to me (I was in China in a different province) a Letter of Introduction and a letter from the local Foreign Experts Bureau to enable me to secure a new Z visa during the summer vacation so as to return on September 1 to start my new job.

The Letter of Invitation specified that I would be applying for a visa in Australia, despite the fact that I had told my new school I�d be spending the 7 week break in Thailand.

During my holiday in Thailand, I attended the Chinese Embassy in Bangkok and was initially serviced by a Thai national clerk. The clerk told me that I could not get a Z visa in Bangkok and that I would have to apply for a Z visa in Australia.

I was on a 60 day tourist visa in Thailand.

I politely but resolutely asked (I asked 3 times) to speak with the person in charge of the visa section. I had to wait about a half hour and was then seen by a Chinese national. I explained to the Chinese guy that I was visiting and staying with my best friend (a fellow Australian) who happened to live in Thailand and that I didn�t want to make a special trip back to Australia.

The guy flicked through my passport which contained an expired Z visa and Foreigner Residence Permit. He said to the clerk (to the best of my recollection) �It�s okay. He�s already worked in China.� The clerk then told me to return in 4 days to collect my passport.

I also changed jobs / provinces the following year and again spent the 7 / 8 week summer vacation in Thailand. However, on that occasion my new school nominated Hong Kong as the place for me to get my new Z visa.

I didn�t mind because my new job was in Guangzhou. I flew from Bangkok to Hong Kong, spent 2 nights in Hong Kong and then traveled by bus to Guangzhou.
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choudoufu



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

warda wrote:
I'm in a similar position. I'm working in Thailand until the end of July and in contact with a uni in Henan for a mid-August start.

They told me that I had two options to get the visa:

1. Make a trip home

2. Do it in Hong Kong.

I haven't heard anything about a 3-4 week wait time. If true, it would be impossible to work out my timing.

Hope the info helps the OP anyway...


i got my z-visa in chiang mai last year (july). no problems at all.
school indicated on the invitation letter that i would apply in thailand.
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TeacherInChina



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cairnsman

That was a great post, lots of detail, thanks. I may be doing the process the same way that you have done it, so my worries are somewhat abated.

My situation is very similar, though i haven't had a previous z visa, I have had a tourist visa in the past 3 years.

A) As long as I specify(and remind them) that I'm applying for the Z visa in say, Bangkok for example, the tourist visa in possession shouldn't pose a problem.

B) They want to issue the visa in Hong Kong.


So it seems that A and B have been done, but why did the advert say one must be in their home country ? Is this a regional thing ?
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TeacherInChina



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

choudoufu wrote:


i got my z-visa in chiang mai last year (july). no problems at all.
school indicated on the invitation letter that i would apply in thailand.


Great news ! I am quite relieved.

Cheers
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