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Lissabe



Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 3:10 pm    Post subject: Contracts Reply with quote

I am in the process of accepting a position with a language school. I was wondering if it is common practice to hire an attorney to look over the contract and help negotiate questionable material. Thanks for your time.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never heard of anyone doing that.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most schools aren't going to be interested in making changes in the contract for a new teacher.

If you start asking for changes, my guess is that they'll think "Geez, not even here and already asking for special treatment... next!"
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Clancy



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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take it or leave it!
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Lissabe



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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 12:30 am    Post subject: thanks Reply with quote

Thanks for your help
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ls650



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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The contract will always favour the school.

I would worry less about what the contract says and more about the school's reputation - will they actually honour their contract? I hear horror stories about schools that routinely ignore the contract and screw the teacher over.

Ask the school for references from other teachers, and talk to them. Were the teachers well-treated? Did the school do everything they said they would? Were any bonuses or plane ticket offers honoured? etc.
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shmooj



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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lissabe... WHERE is the location of the company you are signing a contract with. This will have a huge effect on what rights you have as an employee. When I worked in Japan and had contractural issues, my Japanese boss always rectified them provided I communicated with him face to face. I oftne pointed out how insufficient the contracts were and his comeback was that, to a Japanese, the contract itself is little more than a formality. The real deal is communicated in person and may differ substantially from what is on paper.

Obviously, this can cause cross-cultural misunderstanding but if you have an lawyer go over your contract, they will have little to advise you of unless they are specialised in International Law and the country you are going to be working with.
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khmerhit



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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good post. Nothing is what it appears in Asia.
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Lissabe



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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shmooj: The school I am considering signing with is in South Korea. I have lived there before and need more teaching experience (and certification) before I can consider anywhere else. I have spoken with teachers who have worked at the school previously and they seem to have had good experiences. I am just trying to cover all of my bases.
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