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feelfree



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:27 pm    Post subject: Online Master Degree Reply with quote

I am having a discussion about online degrees with those who have them. They insist there is no way of determining it is an online degree.

Online Master of Education degrees appear acceptable at the primary and secondary level or K-12 in the ME based on the number of people who have them and using this credential.

In the applications I've completed there is a box provided to check how each degree was obtained.

I've read repeatedly on this site online degrees are not accepted at ME universities.

Is the certification more stringent at embassies for university hires to weed out those with online degrees or does it depend on a person telling the truth on his/her application?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be interested in replies too.

I think one problem is it's obvious if a degree was completed online as you will have clashing dates, unless you remove work experience done whilst completing your masters from your CV.

There are distinctions between online/blended/distance methods of study. My experience of distance learning is that you have a personal tutor and classroom observations are carried out by sending the tutor videos.

I have a distance DELTA which has got my foot in the door on several occasions. Nowhere on the certificate does it mention mode of study. Although I had an employment gap during its completion. I also have other vocational qualifications which were studied for in a different country than they are validated in.

One problem I have encountered was the need for a transcript. Feel free to correct me, but this seems to be an American thing. My BA doesn't have a transcript. Also I know British people with MAs and doctorates without transcripts. Perhaps it is a recent thing.

This is one reason I have yet to do an MA. I have worked in the Arabian Gulf for over ten years. I don't think you will get a definitive answer. The reality is that even at one institution the "policy" can vary from day to day and depending upon the person you are dealing with.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mose people can't afford to take time off from work to attend classes full time. I needed two years to complete each M.Ed degree while employed.

The mode of study is asked on applications I have completed recently for universities in the Middle East. I had wrongly assumed the diploma or transcript would make the distinction if the degree was awarded through an online or distance learning program.

There are some universities in the U.S. which are known for online programs such as Kaplan, Walden, and University of Phoenix, but many accredited public and private universities and colleges also offer online programs.

To answer your question secondary schools or high school, two-year or junior colleges, four-year colleges and universities, graduate programs, etc. have transcripts. I'm not sure about technical or trade schools.

Transcripts are not new to the U.S. Grades, grade point average, courses, dates, degrees awarded, etc. are recorded. Academic history is a permanent record. But they don't record how the degree was obtained.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:25 am    Post subject: Re: Online Master Degree Reply with quote

feelfree wrote:
I am having a discussion about online degrees with those who have them. They insist there is no way of determining it is an online degree.

Online Master of Education degrees appear acceptable at the primary and secondary level or K-12 in the ME based on the number of people who have them and using this credential.

In the applications I've completed there is a box provided to check how each degree was obtained.

I've read repeatedly on this site online degrees are not accepted at ME universities.

Is the certification more stringent at embassies for university hires to weed out those with online degrees or does it depend on a person telling the truth on his/her application?


Actually, you could determine it's online, if you're in country A and your degree is in country B. Though I guess more and more places are having presential classes for a couple weeks during breaks. Or if the employer looks at the website, they could find out.

I've actually heard the opposite: That K to 12 doesn't accept online degrees in the ME and that Higher Ed does. I guess they fear that online means fake university.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

desertdawg wrote:
I have a distance DELTA which has got my foot in the door on several occasions. Nowhere on the certificate does it mention mode of study.

One problem I have encountered was the need for a transcript. Feel free to correct me, but this seems to be an American thing. My BA doesn't have a transcript. Also I know British people with MAs and doctorates without transcripts. Perhaps it is a recent thing.

This is one reason I have yet to do an MA. I have worked in the Arabian Gulf for over ten years. I don't think you will get a definitive answer. The reality is that even at one institution the "policy" can vary from day to day and depending upon the person you are dealing with.

I think that most distance certs do that. I don't know of any that actually say that it was done via distance.

My first MA is from Spain and it was a nightmare trying to get transcripts out of them. They had no idea what they were. All my classes and grades are listed on the back of my degree and that's supposed to suffice, but immigration here wanted a transcript. I literally had to sit down with them and explain how to do it. from printing to stamping and folding it into a small envelope )they wanted to give me a huge Xray sized envelope). My second MA is from Australia and transcripts seems the norm there.

Has not having an MA limited your job options in the ME?
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feelfree



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:20 am    Post subject: Re: Online Master Degree Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
feelfree wrote:
I am having a discussion about online degrees with those who have them. They insist there is no way of determining it is an online degree.

Online Master of Education degrees appear acceptable at the primary and secondary level or K-12 in the ME based on the number of people who have them and using this credential.

In the applications I've completed there is a box provided to check how each degree was obtained.

I've read repeatedly on this site online degrees are not accepted at ME universities.

Is the certification more stringent at embassies for university hires to weed out those with online degrees or does it depend on a person telling the truth on his/her application?


Actually, you could determine it's online, if you're in country A and your degree is in country B. Though I guess more and more places are having presential classes for a couple weeks during breaks. Or if the employer looks at the website, they could find out.

I've actually heard the opposite: That K to 12 doesn't accept online degrees in the ME and that Higher Ed does. I guess they fear that online means fake university.


This discussion began with K-12 teachers on another website. Someone asked if a M.Ed degree obtained from XYZ university would be accepted in the ME.

I told him no if it was an online degree. Others chimed in to tell me I was wrong because they have been hired to teach K-12 in the ME with M.Ed degrees from online programs and were using their credentials.....i.e. submitting diplomas and transcripts for certification and being approved.

Perhaps the truth is any Master degree will be accepted if it's from an accredited university program.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:26 am    Post subject: Re: Online Master Degree Reply with quote

feelfree wrote:
This discussion began with K-12 teachers on another website. Someone asked if a M.Ed degree obtained from XYZ university would be accepted in the ME.

I told him no if it was an online degree. Others chimed in to tell me I was wrong because they have been hired to teach K-12 in the ME with M.Ed degrees from online programs and were using their credentials.....i.e. submitting diplomas and transcripts for certification and being approved.

Perhaps the truth is any Master degree will be accepted if it's from an accredited university program.

Maybe they're at international schools, so the international schools can make their own rules.

I think that if you teach at ME, not intl schools, then they can't be online.

MANY unis, brick and mortar ones, have online programmes. It's part of technology and the future. LIke the internet.
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