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partymop
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 Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:22 am Post subject: Is Vietnam a flexible place to work? |
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Hi,
I know these kind of posts get beaten to death but I sometimes it is hard to find straight practical answers unless its from people on the ground.
I'm teaching in Seoul right now and finish up in August. I plan to go to school the following year but im looking for somewhere to teach in the gap, i.e. im looking for about 6 months of work
My qualifications: BA English, CELTA (pass B) and over 3 years experience teaching in korea (private 1 year, 2 years in public system).
I'm thinking of Vietnam because I don't want to be working too much, just enough to kind of get by. Vietnam seems attractive because it seems its less restrictive Visa wise. I'm not adverse to teaching 10 hours here, 5 hours there etc. I just don't want to be pushing over 20-25. Any advise for me? Can I show up and get set up or does all the paperwork need to be done in advance? Do i need a contract or can i work part time on a work visa at places of my choosing? Whats the skinny?. Thanks! |
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bentanddisfunctional
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if you just want to pick up some spare hours here and there then vietnam is fine for you.
No need to worry about the visas.
check out newhanoian.com- tons of jobs
if you want more info then p.m me
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UpScope
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Now is a very good time to arrive in VN for short term jobs. There are a lot of summer jobs being offered, working 3 hours a day, 5 days a week, mainly younger learners and teens though.
Summer school starts now, over the next two weeks. Miss that boat and there will be little work again until Sept / Oct.
Check out ads on Daves for these types of jobs. |
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bentanddisfunctional
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"partymop"
on behalf of upscope and myself
You're welcome  |
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1st Sgt Welsh
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| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| bentanddisfunctional wrote: |
"partymop"
on behalf of upscope and myself
You're welcome |
It does grate me a bit as well when you go out your way to answer a query and your assistance isn't even acknowledged by the person who asked for help in the first place. I see it as just a matter of common courtesy.
Having said that, in fairness to partymop, s/he only posted his/her question on the third of June (today is only the fourth) and maybe s/he hasn't had a chance to respond and has a very good reason for this. I don't know the circumstances but I'm just saying.
In regards to the above answers - I agree 100%. |
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Andy123
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Starting off in a new place is always expensive. It will take you some time to learn the do's and don'ts. Don't get me wrong it is a great adventure here but uncertain from day to day.
Given the current situation, I would think twice. Tough it out in Korea it is more stable. |
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LettersAthruZ
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| Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: Is Vietnam a flexible place to work? |
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| partymop wrote: |
| Vietnam seems attractive because it seems its less restrictive Visa wise. I'm not adverse to teaching 10 hours here, 5 hours there etc. I just don't want to be pushing over 20-25. Any advise for me? Can I show up and get set up or does all the paperwork need to be done in advance? Do i need a contract or can i work part time on a work visa at places of my choosing? Whats the skinny?. Thanks! |
Well, depends on what ya want, truthfully. If you crave stability, consistancy and (from what I have heard) ridgidy verging on boredom......Korea's probably the best bet for you to hang there and find a Hagwon for six months.
If, like Andy stated above, you really want to have a go at an adventure, check out Vietnam.
The Visa thing ain't THAT easy. I mean, if you can talk your way into a contract where the institution will pick up the tab for your work/residency permit, then you're allright (MOST schools will NOT do this if they ARE MADE AWARE that you will only be there for six months!) 
Otherwise, since the initial entrance visa is good for three months only, you're either looking at an in-country three-month visa renewal ($45 - $100 if you land in Ho CHi Minh City....$150+ if you land in Ha Noi or elsewhere in The North) OR a quick flight to Bangkok for a new Visa On Arrival. |
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davehb34
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| Just got back to the U.S. from Vietnam. I was there for 9 months. You don't need a work visa unless you want to stay long term or work at an international school that requires it. If you are paying $45-$100 for a 3 month visa you haven't done your homework. I would get mine done for $35 on bui vien st at Viet Dream Travel. Like everything else in Vietnam people will charge you a lot more if you let them. |
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LettersAthruZ
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| davehb34 wrote: |
| Just got back to the U.S. from Vietnam. I was there for 9 months. You don't need a work visa unless you want to stay long term or work at an international school that requires it. If you are paying $45-$100 for a 3 month visa you haven't done your homework. I would get mine done for $35 on bui vien st at Viet Dream Travel. Like everything else in Vietnam people will charge you a lot more if you let them. |
Right - well, generally your more bigger name/more "reputable" centres will require a work permit...as well (as you've stated) as your International Schools......but you can walk into any small-to-mid-sized cowboy outfit and teach away upon arrival. But, yeah - your Apollos, ILA's, etc. will require you to obtain a work permit. Try your theory sometime at those schools next time you're back!
The $45 - $100 figure I had gotten after calling three different places in The South ('cause I reside in The North of Viet Nam), and I can only go on what people who I call TELL ME the prices are, as I don't reside in Ho Chi Minh City!! But I thank you for that $35 tip! I'll pass that around.
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| Like everything else in Vietnam people will charge you a lot more if you let them. |
Well...up here, we don't have that luxury of reasonable people willing to negotiate over a fair price...... |
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1st Sgt Welsh
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| LettersAthruZ wrote: |
Well...up here, we don't have that luxury of reasonable people willing to negotiate over a fair price...... |
Yep. The mentality of the Vietnamese people in Hanoi compared to Saigon, in my experience, is extremely noticeable. It's like they are two cities in different countries [and not that long ago, of course, they were]. Although I did meet some really nice Hanoians (and, if you go into the countryside up north, the people can often be lovely), personally, I definitely prefer the Saigonese. |
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LettersAthruZ
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| 1st Sgt Welsh wrote: |
Yep. The mentality of the Vietnamese people in Hanoi compared to Saigon, in my experience, is extremely noticeable. It's like they are two cities in different countries [and not that long ago, of course, they were]. Although I did meet some really nice Hanoians (and, if you go into the countryside up north, the people can often be lovely), personally, I definitely prefer the Saigonese. |
Ooooooh yeah.....it's culturally STILL worlds apart, Sarge.....
....Tend to let my guard down a bit whenever I head down to Saigon and I STILL never feel like somebody's intentionally and maliciously trying to rip me off down there.....
.....I ALWAYS look forra excuse to hop on a flight down there!
Naw, they're NOT ALL BAD up here, but, yeah - there definitely IS a noticeable difference! |
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partymop
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Hi sorry, my thanks is coming late. i usually get get email notifications for dave's but didn't seem to this time so i thought no one was answering me (which often happens especially if you're posting something that's been covered). anyways, my apologies, thanks for the info everybody
I'm still just researching into the next step now but Im definitely still very interested in vietnam. so would i be your opinion to just come on a tourist visa and find work? is there any legal risk to doing it that way? that would be ideal, because i have a lot of savings from korea, and like i said, im just trying to kill 6 months but keep myself somewhat stable. thanks again everyone |
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just noel
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Is Vietnam a flexible place to work?
Yes, if you don't mind that you may be kicked out every time you go to renew your visa, even though you pay taxes and dual prices.
It's like a box of chocolates. You never know which one you're going to get (type of visa, if....a visa at all). |
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LettersAthruZ
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| just noel wrote: |
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| Is Vietnam a flexible place to work? |
Is Vietnam a flexible place to work?
Yes, if you don't mind that you may be kicked out every time you go to renew your visa, even though you pay taxes and dual prices.
It's like a box of chocolates. You never know which one you're going to get (type of visa, if....a visa at all). |
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
I am tired of all this negativity on this forum - there is no such thing as "dual prices" for Tay and Viet - ever! And all visas are easily renewed here......
........and now I'll put away the rose-coloured glasses...... |
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1st Sgt Welsh
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| LettersAthruZ wrote: |
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
I am tired of all this negativity on this forum - there is no such thing as "dual prices" for Tay and Viet - ever! And all visas are easily renewed here......
........and now I'll put away the rose-coloured glasses...... |
Got a serious question for you LettersAthruZ because I'm a little curious as to why you would write this. When has any poster with supposedly "rose-coloured glasses" ever said that dual pricing never goes on here and that visas renewals are never problematic?
It's just that I have been reading this forum for many years now and I don't recall ever seeing it. Anyway if you could please supply a few quotes to back up your claim that would be great. Thanks mate. |
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