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Sashadroogie · Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:04 pm Post subject:

Good spot to both of you guys too. Nobody else seems to have paid it any attention...

turtlenecks · Joined: 09 Jul 2010 Posts: 14 Location: Osaka, Japan

I agree with Twincentre.

Isle, thanks for pointing out my typo. i meant to write 'known'. Razz

As for the lyrics of the song, I agree that it seems that the first two 'shoulds' indeed were meant as standalone statements. The Japanese book however took out the 'I should have made you leave your key' line and combined the other two to make the sentence.

Guty, 'should have' by itself is certainly correct but within a hypothetical conditional sentence, I can't see how it can work. Your examples are not 3rd conditional sentences.

I didn't realize it was old and southern British English. I actually work with a Brit and even he thought it was wrong
Very Happy

Thanks for the input.

guty · Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Posts: 365 Location: on holiday

fluffyhamster · Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:31 pm Post subject:

I'm probably a bit shaky on the rules involved, but what about examples like "If you knew, you should've said" (invented, but Google has examples that are very similar)?

Although the 'if' there would seem equivalent to 'that' (i.e. "You should've said [that/if] you knew" (??/*"[That] you knew, you should've said")), on the surface of things at least an 'if' rather than a 'that' is what was and could be said.