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[Sashadroogie]

So all CELTA courses in the UK are actually TESL? Somebody had better tell Cambridge!

[spiral78]

It's not important
Just acronym alphabet soup.

The only real difference is whether your classes include students who share one native language - or if they're a mixed salad. Bit different classroom, dynamics, as you well know.

[Isla Guapa]

[AGoodStory]

[artemisia]

[jhere1]

[tttompatz]

[naturegirl321]

I can speak for Peru, it's basically what China used to be. It's like this
Do you have a pulse?
Can you work split shifts?
Do you mind working illegally under the table, no visa, no flights, no housing?

Yea! You're hired.

Of course , some places ask for degrees and certs, but due to low wages, highish cost of living, no visas or help, there's such a high turnover that they can afford to be picky.

MAYBE, if they offered work visas, things woul change. But due to political issues, I highly doubt English is going to be a priority any time soon.

And this is for language institutes. Schools and unis have higher reqs.

[jhere1]

[spiral78]

Early Childhood Education, Master's in Teaching English as a Second Language.

These are higher level qualifications which you don't need to get started.


It's usually only when you have already got some experience behind you that one would start on a Master's, and if you haven't already got ECE in your four years of university, you'd basically have to start all over on an education degree to get it.

With these qualifications, you can get university or international school jobs.


CYC, I'm not sure. Child and Youth Care?? Canadian Yacht Club?

[jhere1]

[quote="spiral78"]Early Childhood Education, Master's in Teaching English as a Second Language.

These are higher level qualifications which you don't need to get started.


It's usually only when you have already got some experience behind you that one would start on a Master's, and if you haven't already got ECE in your four years of university, you'd basically have to start all over on an education degree to get it.

With these qualifications, you can get university or international school jobs.

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Isn't ECE for children under 5yrs. I am thinking of teaching elementary school age children in either Asia, central or Latin America. Would you need a teaching credential for that or just any 4 yr degree? All ocmments appreciated.

[scintillatestar]

Tttompatz makes a good point about teaching younger learners. Many countries are hiring English/ESL teachers now for mainstream classrooms. This makes a lot of sense - why not start earlier? I'm not sure that the CELTA YL extension will have too much relevance though. I believe that it only two weeks of training? That is not long enough to be critically relevant, in my opinion.

In countries with lower pay or with a huge demand (ie. Korea, Georgia), I think general requirements will be the same - degree, native speaker, etc. In the countries with higher pay (ie. UAE, Hong Kong) a teaching certificate will be required. For K-12 teaching, this might include: 7-12 English, K-12 ESL, K-6 Generalist. This is already the case with the aforementioned countries, as well as international schools.

[scintillatestar]

IF you are serious about this field, I would highly recommend doing a M.A. in TESOL that also leads to K-12 certification in ESL. You can complete both at the same time. It will allow you to work in different settings, such as international schools and universities.

Also, the K-12 cert in ESL is pretty rare compared to the Secondary English. So, you would be in demand for elementary ELL positions as they come up.