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[naturegirl321]

1) Common ish. It depends on the institute and being at the right place at the right time with the right experience, qualifications, and connections. For example, our head teacher is leaving this summer, so people could move up. I have no desire to at the moment because I've got floor pacing and crying to look forward to in Nov.

2) DELTA, Trinity DIP, IDLTM, or Masters.

3) Can be. Depends. I know a lot of peopel prefer teaching due to the stress of being a DOS or manager, but I think it depends on the person.

OUr hours are 10 classes of 75 minutes. Base salary. We get extra pay for extra classes, so usualy teach 2 to 4 more. And have 3 office hours. Pretty good. Unis, where I am at least, pay salaries, not hourly, except for extra classes.

[naturegirl321]

[spiral78]

There are VERY few downsides to tenure, unless the managment situation at one's institution is untenable.

[Zero]

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[Sashadroogie]

I dunno about you guys, but I've already got my mausoleum picked out and a well-appointed spot on Red Square. Gotta get all those 5-year plans in order in good time!

[Forward 5]

I guess I wasn't aware of how easily things can get twisted here.
First- I'm pretty well grounded as a decorated 10 year veteran.
I'm gauging my plans right now and working on a revised plan- that's why I'm here, to seek advice in that direction.
Eating cat food when I'm old but having great memories is about as far twisted as someone can take my comment about wishing to be old and have great memories.
Logically speaking, in the mind of just about any rational person; would a senior citizen be happy to be old and penniless as long as they had great memories? Of course not.
There's no need for out-of-context assumptions. Unless it's directly stated, it should be immaterial. Objectivity is the straightest line to clarity and an effective answer/solution.
I also use this board as a social-response mechanism to gauge the field itself too.
If ESL teachers are unhappy it will likely have the tendency to show.
Now- I'm afraid I'll have to qualify that before the rhetoric police come. Does it mean that every petty comment reflects a petty person? No.
Does every disgruntled comment mean the field of ESL is filled with disgruntled people? No.
The general overall pattern of things often indicates a true and accurate majorative picture.
-but here we go again; does that mean that every single time something happens, it can be extrapolated and super-imposed perfectly onto a corresponding larger patter? NO!
Sheesh.
As with 95% of boards on the internet- we are so literal, it's like we're all 15 years old.
I don't know if it's the lack of social cues or what but discussions ALWAYS seem to digress one way or another. My post being a perfect example.

[denise]

Moving beyond the classroom can mean: 1) getting into admin/director of studies-type positions, 2) getting into materials development, 3) getting into assessment, and other options--I'm just going by the typical path of teachers at my last university job. Sometimes you need certain qualifications (although a good MA in TESOL might include bits of all of those elements), and sometimes you just need to be in the right place at the right time.

Or did you mean moving on to something completely removed from EFL? The options I listed would likely still include a few hours of teaching.

Having just returned from the Middle East, I'd say it's a good place to spend PART of your career. You need experience + qualifications to get the good jobs there, so it's not a great place for beginners. And it's, well, a "different" lifestyle. Personally, I wouldn't consider growing old and retiring there, but there are others who are able to do it, and hopefully happy to do it.

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[naturegirl321]

[naturegirl321]

double post. Is anyone else have connectivity issues lately with Dave's?

[Forward 5]

You didn't see the part about cat food?
Seriously- a major reason for a re-consideration of my plans [/i]is because of the situation in the US. We're losing freedoms faster than I can keep track and it's making me pretty sick. Social security is almost already gone, certainly when I'll be retired and healthcare will be 3rd world scary if it continues at this rate.
I'll stop here because I'll start ranting about the poor state of affairs here in the US and probably upset people.

[Zero]

[Forward 5]

Exactly! Bang! Right on the money!
Not only that- federal budget spending is creating a further "cycle of dependency" so when they pull the plug on social security it's a cruel joke. What I mean is; for the 2010 Federal budget, over 500 BILLION was spent on welfare yet hardly one THIRD of that was spent on education.
How can we expect people to understand what's going on when it's becoming easier for everyone to not think and when even lesser money is spent on teaching them HOW to think rather than WHAT to think? They're setting people up for failure at every turn.
Sorry for the rant, but really.... Regurgitation is for robots and parrots and it's hardly an accurate measure of intelligence.
As long as something is repeated enough times it becomes truth here in America now and people really don't see that as a hazard! It's becoming "unreality" is the only way I can describe it.
While at the same time- they know they're being lied to yet they don't even question the lies anymore, let alone the liars responsible for it all and forget holding them accountable
Honestly- an entire hyper media-based cuture, reality-show "reality" of a country and it's all owned by 6 major corporations?
EGAD!
Heaven forbid thinking differently; Welcome to 1984.
Orwell has GOT to be laughing!