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AGoodStory
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OOPS!  And here I thought that I didn't harbor any sexist preconceptions!
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lov2travel
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Location: Istanbul
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:17 am Post subject: |
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yes, I'm definately a man.
I first wanted to work in Europe but I didn't watch my budget close enough while traveling (was supposed to start looking when I had a grand left) so europe isn't a necessity for me, just a job...anywhere. There are a few places I don't want to work(like Georgia) because I do not want to be stuck in the middle of nowhere (I like living in a city or atleast have easy access to one). |
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naturegirl321
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Location: home sweet home
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| AGoodStory wrote: |
| The OP is American. She wants to work legally, i.e., with a work permit. In Europe. That's not going to happen as an au pair in France or Spain. In Russia, yes, perhaps. But somehow I doubt that Russia is where she meant when she said that she wanted to stay in Europe. |
Sorry, but Americans CAN get au pair visas. Go to the embassy's website. They have au pair visas: for Americans.  Here's the info for France http://www.consulfrance-washington.org/spip.php?article405
So. . . that would mean that the OP could work legally, i.e., with a work permit. , wouldn't it? I'm not advocating working illegally. Which is why I suggested au pairing, since there ARE visas available after all 
For Spain, you'd have to enrol in a language course in order to get the visa, which often happens with au pairs. You watch the kids and take lessons in your spare time to help you integrate into the culture.
And for Russia, it's Europe after all. At least half of it. 
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yes, I'm definately a man.
I first wanted to work in Europe but I didn't watch my budget close enough while traveling (was supposed to start looking when I had a grand left) so europe isn't a necessity for me, just a job...anywhere. There are a few places I don't want to work(like Georgia) because I do not want to be stuck in the middle of nowhere (I like living in a city or atleast have easy access to one). |
If Europe isn't a necessity, have you thought about Asia? China is pretty nice. You get a visa, flights, and housing. You should be able to land a job quickly as well with your experience.
Au pairing is a bit more difficult for a man, it can be done, but takes longer.
Summer's coming up, you could land a camp job as well in Asia. |
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lov2travel
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:55 am Post subject: |
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China is a possibility but I'm waiting to hear back from a friend who worked there for quite some time on recommended places *he worked in several cities* For Asia I'm sending a lot of applications to Thailand as I really enjoyed my time there before and would really love to get back into diving once I have a steady income. (I got my advanced Certification there).
But yeah, China is next on my list of mass applications if Thailand, Poland, EU do not work. Last but not least I'd resort back to Korea however I'm hoping I don't have to as it wasn't my cup of tea after two years. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:02 am Post subject: |
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| That's great that you're open to so many places. I loved China and would love to go back. I hear Thailand is wonderful, only visited, never lived there. I couldn't stand the year round heat. I have a friend moving there early next year. |
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General Disarray
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Plan D |
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If you get really desperate and want an adventure hit me up on PM. My school in KZ is leaning towards hiring another expat. I should know in a few weeks. Your BA and online cert is good to go with the migration authorities.
If hired, I can guarantee you a great salary that is always paid on time with decent housing (internet and all utilities paid) 5 mins from the school, a meal stipend, company provided health insurance which is compulsory under Kazakh law and flight reimbursement.
I can also guarantee you crap hours, general bipolar behavior among some staff, last minute changes to your schedule and a belief at the workplace that as a foreigner you must be superman. With the YL they want an "edutainer." I dream of dropping that portion of my work load on this potential new colleague so I can focus on the adults and Oil and Business English classes.  |
This made me laugh out loud.
Probably a late post,
$200 in Europe, during the holiday season, without a VISA...I fled back to England for a summer camp job from Europe and I had �300....
Honest advice, unless you have a really good friend who will put you up on a couch for a whole month, feed you, then stay.
Take into account that you will be getting paid monthly mostly as well. Best bet is if you do settle in Poland, pin up loads of flyers for private lessons and hope someone is interested.
You will be struggling a lot, $200 wouldn't have gone very far in Hungary, and that is one of the more cheaper countries in Europe. |
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AGoodStory
Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
Sorry, but Americans CAN get au pair visas. Go to the embassy's website. They have au pair visas: for Americans. Here's the info for France http://www.consulfrance-washington.org/spip.php?article405
So. . . that would mean that the OP could work legally, i.e., with a work permit. , wouldn't it? I'm not advocating working illegally. Which is why I suggested au pairing, since there ARE visas available after all . . . . . . . . . . .
Au pairing is a bit more difficult for a man, it can be done, but takes longer.
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I certainly don't dispute that it's possible to become an au pair in
France, or presumably Spain, (and, yes, even Italy has an au pair program.) What is not clear is why anyone would recommend such a route to this poster, given his particular set of circumstances.
Let's assume he is between 17 and 30, and wants to be an au pair. Given his time and money constraints, he could conceivably do this informally, find a family to hire him, get room and board, and a little cash. But he would be working illegally.
To be legal, he would have to apply for France's (for example) au pair visa. According to his posts, he has total of $200, with the possibility of a little more from his family. He simply does not have the time or the resources to follow through with an application to France's very nice au pair visa program, as is clear from the details in the embassy link above.
Just for starters, he would need $141 of his $200 for processing fees. He has to secure a contract with a host family, get it approved and signed by the French labor department, find and get accepted by a French school, obtain a letter of admission from this school, manage to pay the school for a program of 20 hours per week (minimum), and . . .let's see. . . possibly have to pay to have his birth certificate translated. Then, of course, he has to fly back to the U.S. since he can apply for this program only from his home country. Once he has his visa, he has to get himself back to France. Quite a daunting task with only $200 in his pocket!
Unless lov2travel is a real genius with money, I'd say that his money is likely to have run out long before he can legally work as an au pair. (And if he's that good with money, he's in the wrong profession, whether au pairing or teaching!) |
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AGoodStory
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Lov2travel, can you give us an update? Where are you now? I'd love to know how far your $200 took you, and how you've managed. Did you make it to Poland? Have you managed to stay in the EU? Any work prospects? Here's hoping you've enjoyed good luck since your last post!
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