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rxk22
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| Glenski wrote: |
Do I have this right? The school expects you to find and furnish everything in an apartment? Pretty unreasonable and not the norm. Think about it. Whether you have problems with the language or not, how are you supposed to move thousands of miles here, and then get all those things in order while you are starting a new job?
seklarwia is being a bit too simplistic in describing what needs to be done. Unfurnished apartments come with zero. No appliances, no furnishings, no light fixtures, nothing. Yes, you can buy it all and not all that difficultly, but to land here and have to do all that in the first 2 days in an unknown neighborhood is unreasonable and impractical.
I suppose they don't help with key money, either... |
i would be hesitant about getting an apt that was found by a company. I had a rural posting as an ALT. Had a small 2k house, and it had slugs and grass growing up through the shower room floor. Had a lot of cockroaches, and of course the full sized mukade, which are pretty challenging to kill.
I moved out pretty quick to say the least. |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009
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Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Glenski wrote: |
| Seklarwia is being a bit too simplistic in describing what needs to be done. Unfurnished apartments come with zero. No appliances, no furnishings, no light fixtures, nothing. Yes, you can buy it all and not all that difficultly, but to land here and have to do all that in the first 2 days in an unknown neighborhood is unreasonable and impractical. |
The guy is already here and has been here for a little, so no I am not.
It's no different to what I had to do to furnish my place when I moved out of my Leopalace... quite literally since I didn't even know what the word was for washing machine and even came here asking about deliveries because I don't drive. I also don't know any technical Japanese so thought I was going to be stumped with the setting up of my internet, but it was pretty easy. And when I moved here from my old city, I just went into the store in my old city and gave them my new address and the guy arranged everything for me.
It really was as simple as i described. |
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KnockoutNed
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:03 am Post subject: |
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Thanks everyone for your thoughts/suggestions. I decided on the island gig. I agree with Glenski in that the Fukushima deal could have been difficult The job sounded great though but I'm sure after my next position I'll be able to find something similar.
I will be finished with my current position in a few weeks. I ended up giving 6-weeks notice. It seems like too much to me, but it's what my employer wants and what was written in the contract. |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| seklarwia wrote: |
| Glenski wrote: |
| Seklarwia is being a bit too simplistic in describing what needs to be done. Unfurnished apartments come with zero. No appliances, no furnishings, no light fixtures, nothing. Yes, you can buy it all and not all that difficultly, but to land here and have to do all that in the first 2 days in an unknown neighborhood is unreasonable and impractical. |
The guy is already here and has been here for a little, so no I am not. |
But if he moves to a different area, it will be like a newbie in the respect I described. No contacts, no awareness of what shops are around, nothing.
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It's no different to what I had to do to furnish my place when I moved out of my Leopalace... quite literally since I didn't even know what the word was for washing machine and even came here asking about deliveries because I don't drive. I also don't know any technical Japanese so thought I was going to be stumped with the setting up of my internet, but it was pretty easy. And when I moved here from my old city, I just went into the store in my old city and gave them my new address and the guy arranged everything for me.
It really was as simple as i described. |
Just curious, though. Did you move into a totally empty place with nothing on your back except clothes? How long did it take to get light fixtures, fridge, washer, microwave, bed furnishings, kitchen utensils, all while you were starting a new job? To me, that is what it sounds like, but I'd just like to know the length of time you spent setting up.
| rxk22 wrote: |
i would be hesitant about getting an apt that was found by a company. I had a rural posting as an ALT. Had a small 2k house, and it had slugs and grass growing up through the shower room floor. Had a lot of cockroaches, and of course the full sized mukade, which are pretty challenging to kill.
I moved out pretty quick to say the least. |
You diss apartments, but then you describe a house. Different animal.
I'd say be wary of apartments in certain situations.
1) I would personally never share with someone I didn't know, even if we worked for the same company. Your choice, of course.
2) I would hesitate if I had to pay the employer instead of the landlord. Same holds if the employer owned the building himself.
3) I would never move into a place where the employer himself lives, or where he says the school operates (some have reported this to be a different floor, or even in that very apartment!).
Otherwise, be sure you don't have to pay key money. If it's an apartment that is handed down from another teacher for that employer, key money should already be paid. Also, be wary of any leases that state exorbitant cleaning fees. |
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rxk22
Joined: 19 May 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Glenski wrote: |
| seklarwia wrote: |
| Glenski wrote: |
| Seklarwia is being a bit too simplistic in describing what needs to be done. Unfurnished apartments come with zero. No appliances, no furnishings, no light fixtures, nothing. Yes, you can buy it all and not all that difficultly, but to land here and have to do all that in the first 2 days in an unknown neighborhood is unreasonable and impractical. |
The guy is already here and has been here for a little, so no I am not. |
But if he moves to a different area, it will be like a newbie in the respect I described. No contacts, no awareness of what shops are around, nothing.
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It's no different to what I had to do to furnish my place when I moved out of my Leopalace... quite literally since I didn't even know what the word was for washing machine and even came here asking about deliveries because I don't drive. I also don't know any technical Japanese so thought I was going to be stumped with the setting up of my internet, but it was pretty easy. And when I moved here from my old city, I just went into the store in my old city and gave them my new address and the guy arranged everything for me.
It really was as simple as i described. |
Just curious, though. Did you move into a totally empty place with nothing on your back except clothes? How long did it take to get light fixtures, fridge, washer, microwave, bed furnishings, kitchen utensils, all while you were starting a new job? To me, that is what it sounds like, but I'd just like to know the length of time you spent setting up.
| rxk22 wrote: |
i would be hesitant about getting an apt that was found by a company. I had a rural posting as an ALT. Had a small 2k house, and it had slugs and grass growing up through the shower room floor. Had a lot of cockroaches, and of course the full sized mukade, which are pretty challenging to kill.
I moved out pretty quick to say the least. |
You diss apartments, but then you describe a house. Different animal.
I'd say be wary of apartments in certain situations.
1) I would personally never share with someone I didn't know, even if we worked for the same company. Your choice, of course.
2) I would hesitate if I had to pay the employer instead of the landlord. Same holds if the employer owned the building himself.
3) I would never move into a place where the employer himself lives, or where he says the school operates (some have reported this to be a different floor, or even in that very apartment!).
Otherwise, be sure you don't have to pay key money. If it's an apartment that is handed down from another teacher for that employer, key money should already be paid. Also, be wary of any leases that state exorbitant cleaning fees. |
True but it was a small house that really is just a sep apt.
Also a lot of times it seems as though the ALT or whatever pays more for rent than other people in that apt. Seems like a common theme. Not sure how common it is, but it does happen. |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| rxk22 wrote: |
| Also a lot of times it seems as though the ALT or whatever pays more for rent than other people in that apt. Seems like a common theme. Not sure how common it is, but it does happen. |
Yes, this can happen, too. It seemed to happen a lot in shared circumstances, as I recall from the old days of NOVA. Kind of hard to know this up front, however, unless one is bold enough to talk to the landlord or a real estate agent before accepting. |
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