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mankilla



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:58 am    Post subject: Scared. going to china. Reply with quote

Hey everyone,
I recently accepted a position in the Guandong Province in Foshan China.
Has anyone ever been there? is 5500 enough a month? please.. any info would be nice.
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7969



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

too vague. more info please.
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mankilla



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:44 am    Post subject: Sowwy Reply with quote

Ok has anyone heard of Huayin School in FOSHAN CHINA...(Guandong Province)I have been waiting a month to get my work permit from my school and I was wondering how do you know if your contract is real? I have read that Chinese school contracts are outlined in RED. Fact or fiction? Also, is 5500RMB a month,free room the duration of my teaching contract ,and airfair enough to survive and travel off of?
Is traveling from Foshan easy? is skype really not available there?
SORRY MY QUESTIONS ARE SO VAGUE HOPEFULLY THIS HELPS..
PWEASEE
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I ask this question:
If you don't get positive answers about this school will you renege on the contract?
Seems to me you're doing your basic research at the wrong end of the process.
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TheHanMan



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never lived in China but travelled around the country for two months last year. My budget per month was 5,000RMB. That got me accomodation (hostels), transport, food, and everything else that I needed.

So I spent roughly 1,250RMB a week. Obviously if you're settling down somewhere for a period of time, some weeks will be more expensive than this, some less so.

I'm guessing your job comes with free accomodation. That being the case, I reckon you could live on the wage you mentioned. But see what others with actual living experience in the country have to say on the matter.

You won't live like a king however and major, extravagant purchases might not be within your grasp. For me, I'm still mulling over the possibility of China or a return to Europe instead, so I know it's sometimes difficult to make a decision like this.

Hope this helps you in some way to make yours Very Happy
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tacoeater



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Scared. going to china. Reply with quote

mankilla wrote:
Hey everyone,
I recently accepted a position in the Guandong Province in Foshan China.
Has anyone ever been there? is 5500 enough a month? please.. any info would be nice.


Perhaps you should have your facts, plan, intentions, capabilities nailed down before you accepted a job!! You accepted a job without knowing such facts. I sense it's a bad sign to come.
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Johnny_Utah



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have accommodation provided then yes 5k should be enough. Your not going to walk out of china with a fortune saved up, or any money saved. But you can live alright on 5k, and do some traveling. I suggest you find a place to teach at part-time on the weekends, you could possibly double or triple your salary that way.
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7969



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Sowwy Reply with quote

mankilla wrote:
Ok has anyone heard of Huayin School in FOSHAN CHINA...(Guandong Province)I have been waiting a month to get my work permit from my school and I was wondering how do you know if your contract is real?

I think you'll know if the contract and the school are for real if and when you get the documents for the Z visa in your hands.

Foshan is very close to Guangzhou so you shouldn't have any trouble finding things to do there.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many hours per week?

5k in my mind is a pittance.

Good luck enjoying yourself for a year; tons of jobs on this very website for double that.
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mankilla



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok great wall whiner.. show me one.. hehehahaha.......
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mankilla wrote:
ok great wall whiner.. show me one.. hehehahaha.......


You asked for it...

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/china/index.cgi?read=23358

9k-13k (Tianjin)

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/china/index.cgi?read=23344

10k (Shanghai)

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/china/index.cgi?read=23343

13k-15k (Beijing)

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/china/index.cgi?read=23335

9k-15k (Various)


Please look harder next time; thousands of jobs out there but only hundreds of teachers applying.
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chryanvii



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

5000 is the norm for almost everyone here in China teaching at University. Any more and it's either through negotation as a result of more experience, you're working more than 16 hours, or you're doing something else like teaching children or high school.

As long as you have an accommodation provided, you should be fine. Just don't go out and buy a 4000 yuan video camera like I did...it put me in the hole, and now I'm going back to teaching at a private training center to get my money back.

You are also near Guangzhou - so you have the ability to work at a private training center or teach children on weekends if you really want to make more money. But my suggestion to you is to enjoy your freedom at the beginning! University life can be very fulfilling if you get to know your students. Invite them back to cook with you from time to time...they are great fun.
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mrwslee003



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:34 am    Post subject: new job. Reply with quote

Hi Mankilla,
A new job is always exciting, yet an unknown place is also intimidating as well, especially for a new traveller. I take it that it is your first time to China.

I always view my travel as an exciting experience, feel full of anticipation.
Fushan is very close to Guongzhou and quite cosmopolitan. I've been through there but have never lived there. I did live in Guongzhou, Zhuhai and Jiangman. The whole region is humming, vibrant and full of industries and products for export. The place is made of money.

How can you know your contract is for real? It is very unlikely that your contract is phoney. People there are pretty honest and they have been in
business for generations. They have the experience of dealing with foreigners and they can't succeed in business if they are not trustworthy.

However, for your peace of mind: ask for the school's principal, other fts (foreign teachers) and ask for their phone numbers and emails so you can easily talk with them-phone numbers, addresses, and emails are essentials.

And of course you should be able to phone the agent anytime you have a question. Know your working conditions, monthly pay-5500/month is an ok starting wage. Your apartment and return fare are part of the contract, of course, providing you complete the contract satisfactorily.

Trust your instinct and be brave but be on guard as well. Its wonderful to
travel and see the world. Good luck.
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fortunatekooky



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have a link for Huayin School's website?

I looked on baidu.com to see what kind of school this is, and I didn't find it immediately. I'm still not sure if this is a university job or a training center.

If it's a training center, and they're sponsoring your visa, they will likely expect you to work full time for it--i.e. 25 teaching hours/week plus office hours--and the salary is poor for that kind of servitude, even with the accomodations.

How many work hours are specified in your contract?
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Miles Smiles



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: Scared. going to china. Reply with quote

mankilla wrote:
Hey everyone,
I recently accepted a position in the Guandong Province in Foshan China.
Has anyone ever been there? is 5500 enough a month? please.. any info would be nice.


For some reason, people like to complicate things.

If your rent and utilities are paid, and if you live near or on campus, 5,500 rmb is enough to live on, provided that you aren't a spendthrift and a lush.

What is difficult about answering the question? Why have others thrown in a lot of irrelevant questions. The question was simple: "...is 5500 [rmb] enough a month?..."
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