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BRING YOUR: Sense of humor, humility, patience.........
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rogerwilco



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:45 pm    Post subject: BRING YOUR: Sense of humor, humility, patience......... Reply with quote

Forget all this talk about bringing large shoes, deodorant, tampons, etc. If you look long enough you can find all those things in China.

In my opinion, the character traits or attitudes that you bring with you to your job in China are far more important than any material possessions.

A sense of humor and being able to laugh with others and also laugh at yourself will save your sanity. I have seen many here fail because they have no sense of humor. Most Chinese have a great sense of humor, and being able to share a laugh with them will make life here so much more enjoyable.
A sense of humor may be the most important asset to bring to be able to adjust to China.

Humility is needed in China. The arrogant will find themselves humbled or humiliated very quickly.

Patience is needed all day everyday until you can adjust to life here.
Losing your patience is a very quick way to "lose face".

Over the past few years I have seen many newbies arrive in China, and the ones that don't survive and thrive seem to lack patience, humility and/or a sense of humor.
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7969



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If more people paid attention to the above post they might find life in China can actually be quite good. Alas, many people lack the above-mentioned traits and prefer to fly off the handle at the first sign of trouble, blaming everyone else for their problems (not a lot different from being back home in that way, but in a foreign country you have a lot less leverage than you do back home - a point that's lost on some who come to China).

Great post rogerwilco. I agree with everything you wrote.
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sistercream



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where's the "Like" button?

Agree totally with both the above posts!
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GuestBob



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: BRING YOUR: Sense of humor, humility, patience......... Reply with quote

rogerwilco wrote:
...tampons...If you look long enough you can find all those things in China.


I agree with everything you say apart from this.
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rogerwilco



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:26 pm    Post subject: Re: BRING YOUR: Sense of humor, humility, patience......... Reply with quote

GuestBob wrote:
rogerwilco wrote:
...tampons...If you look long enough you can find all those things in China.


I agree with everything you say apart from this.


taobao.com Smile

http://s.taobao.com/search?q=tampon&keyword=&commend=all&ssid=s5-e&search_type=item&atype=&tracelog=&sourceId=tb.index&rt=1310239533689
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wangdaning



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife gets them from taobao, but there are a few shops in town that sell them too (just more expensive).

To clarify this is tampons with applicators, most Chinese shops sell tampons without.
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desertdust



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Totally agree!!! This helped me greatly by having this attitude and helped my transition to Chinese life. Good post, rogerwilco.
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wangdaning



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgot to add that I like the post. Going in with flexibility and adaptability is necessary in a new environment.

Too many times people get off the plane and expect a whole society (the largest in the world in this case) to bend to their whims. Until you are Emperor of China that ain't happening here. It is difficult to not get frustrated, but minimizing your frustration is key. It is amazing what can be done when you relax and joke about it. For example, taxi drivers charging too much, often an issue. Making some jokes and laughing about it usually gets you the correct price. It gets me frustrated sometimes though, which leads to me waiting forever for a taxi (which compounds the frustration).

This doesn't just go for China though, it is quite good advice wherever you are.
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petebeatstreet



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been here nine years - I guess I must have enough of the above three to get by.

That said, I have left China more than once in complete exhaustion and frustration, only to return for Round 2, 3, 4.
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shoulderdocca



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrow Arrow Arrow Rolling Eyes Confused
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wangdaning



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shoulderdocca wrote:
Arrow Arrow Arrow Rolling Eyes Confused


Not really sure what "arrow, arrow, arrow, rolling eyes, confused" means. Could you perhaps use some words to clarify what you mean?
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shoulderdocca



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.dictionary.com wrote:
infer

in�fer

 [in-fur] Show IPA verb, -ferred, -fer�ring.
�verb (used with object)

1. to derive by reasoning; conclude or judge from premises or evidence: They inferred his displeasure from his cool tone of voice.

2. (of facts, circumstances, statements, etc.) to indicate or involve as a conclusion; lead to.

3. to guess; speculate; surmise.

4. to hint; imply; suggest.

�verb (used without object)
5. to draw a conclusion, as by reasoning.

Origin:
1520�30; < Latin inferre, equivalent to in- in-2 + ferre to bring, carry, bear

�Can be confused:  imply, infer (see usage note at the current entry ).

�Synonyms
1. deduce, reason, guess.

�Usage note
Infer has been used to mean �to hint or suggest� since the 16th century by speakers and writers of unquestioned ability and eminence: The next speaker criticized the proposal, inferring that it was made solely to embarrass the government. Despite its long history, many 20th-century usage guides condemn the use, maintaining that the proper word for the intended sense is imply and that to use infer is to lose a valuable distinction between the two words.

Although the claimed distinction has probably existed chiefly in the pronouncements of usage guides, and although the use of infer to mean �to suggest� usually produces no ambiguity, the distinction too has a long history and is widely observed by many speakers and writers.
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wangdaning



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I will infer. You are rolling your eyes but you don't know why. This must be the reason you can't explain.
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starlight



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:31 am    Post subject: BRING YOUR: Sense of humor, humility, patience......... Reply with quote

It's taken me 10 minutes to stop laughing at Wangdaning's last post. Thanks for the huge chuckle!
Laughing <-- You can infer that I'm amused. Laughing
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GuestBob



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shoulderdocca wrote:
Arrow Arrow Arrow Rolling Eyes Confused


Question

Is this the fabled secret handshake of the eMasons?
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