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dghjarrett
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 Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:47 am Post subject: Spouse Visa - Creates Problems / Able to work? |
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Hi all,
I am UK citizen and a qualified CELTA teacher. My wife, who is an Italian Citizen, and I are thinking of moving somewhere new, maybe to Hong Kong, Vietnam or Malaysia. I am the only teacher in the couple and therefore, probably the one who would get the work to secure a VISA for the country.
Does my wife being an Italian Citizen create any problems with getting a dependent VISA and if not, would she be able to work on this type of VISA in said countries..
Thanks for any advice,
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tttompatz
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: Spouse Visa - Creates Problems / Able to work? |
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| dghjarrett wrote: |
Hi all,
I am UK citizen and a qualified CELTA teacher. My wife, who is an Italian Citizen, and I are thinking of moving somewhere new, maybe to Hong Kong, Vietnam or Malaysia. I am the only teacher in the couple and therefore, probably the one who would get the work to secure a VISA for the country.
Does my wife being an Italian Citizen create any problems with getting a dependent VISA and if not, would she be able to work on this type of VISA in said countries..
Thanks for any advice,
daniel |
If you have a degree to go with that CELTA there won't be any problem getting a dependent family visa for her in Asia with the caveat that she probably won't be able to work (depends on the country you go to and whether or not she holds a degree in anything). In order to get legal work she would need to be able to obtain the proper work visa rather than a dependent family visa.
I have never had a problem bringing my wife and daughter anywhere in Asia (as dependents).
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Glenski
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry to nitpick, but your title for this thread says "spouse visa", and that's clearly not what you intend to hold.
Also, it's spelled visa, not VISA. Uppercase is the credit card spelling.
To answer your question, I'd say visit the appropriate forums for those countries. |
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sistercream
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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In Hong Kong only one person in a married couple needs to hold an employment visa. The spouse gets a dependent visa, which entitles him/ her to work without any extra government paperwork  |
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dghjarrett
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Thanks for all the advice on this matter. If my wife enters on a spousal visa and cannot work, can she change the visa in-country if she then finds work and the employer is willing to support her visa application?? I heard stories of people having to leave the country first to sort the visa stuff out??
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tttompatz
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:27 am Post subject: |
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| dghjarrett wrote: |
Thanks for all the advice on this matter. If my wife enters on a spousal visa and cannot work, can she change the visa in-country if she then finds work and the employer is willing to support her visa application?? I heard stories of people having to leave the country first to sort the visa stuff out??
daniel |
Country specific but in many cases she can change from a residence visa to a work visa without the need for a border run.
This is DIFFERENT than changing status from tourist (no visa entry) to a work visa (usually requires a border run to a neighboring country).
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Glenski
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| dghjarrett wrote: |
| Thanks for all the advice on this matter. If my wife enters on a spousal visa and cannot work, can she change the visa in-country if she then finds work and the employer is willing to support her visa application?? I heard stories of people having to leave the country first to sort the visa stuff out?? |
I asked you earlier to get your terminology straight.
Spouse visa usually means the spouse of a person who is a local citizen of the country you are in.
example:
Move to Japan, marry a Japanese, and you get a spouse visa.
Move to Japan with a spouse from any other country, and you have a dependent visa, not spouse visa.
One item of note for Japan is that if she is on a dependent visa (your dependent, that is, and she makes more than a certain amount (roughly 1 million yen per year), you can no longer claim her as a dependent on your taxes. So, in that instance you might want to consider whether she can change to a work visa. Depends on tax system in the country whether this is more of an advantage.
Not sure how it works in other countries, but if she has either a spouse visa or a dependent visa in Japan, she are allowed to work from the start. I suspect it is similar to other countries, so if your wife has the proper visa to enter the country as your spouse, there may be no need to change visas to some kind of work visa. |
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Glenski
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| dghjarrett wrote: |
| Thanks for all the advice on this matter. If my wife enters on a spousal visa and cannot work, can she change the visa in-country if she then finds work and the employer is willing to support her visa application?? I heard stories of people having to leave the country first to sort the visa stuff out?? |
I asked you earlier to get your terminology straight.
Spouse visa usually means the spouse of a person who is a local citizen of the country you are in.
example:
Move to Japan, marry a Japanese, and you get a spouse visa.
Move to Japan with a spouse from any other country, and you have a dependent visa, not spouse visa.
One item of note for Japan is that if she is on a dependent visa (your dependent, that is, and she makes more than a certain amount (roughly 1 million yen per year)), you can no longer claim her as a dependent on your taxes. So, in that instance you might want to consider whether she can change to a work visa. Depends on tax system in the country whether this is more of an advantage.
Not sure how it works in other countries, but if she has either a spouse visa or a dependent visa in Japan, she is allowed to work from the start. I suspect it is similar to other countries, so if your wife has the proper visa to enter the country as your spouse, there may be no need to change visas to some kind of work visa.
Edited for a typo that is getting out of hand with responses.
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ancient_dweller
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| Glenski - your picture is massive |
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Zero
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| Not sure how it works in other countries, but if she has either a spouse visa or a dependent visa in Japan, she are allowed to work from the start. |
Sorry to nitpick, but that would be "is" allowed -- subject/verb agreement issue. |
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Glenski
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| Glenski - your picture is massive |
Sorry, it didn't look big on my screen. Better now? |
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It's Scary!
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| Not sure how it works in other countries, but if she has either a spouse visa or a dependent visa in Japan, she are allowed to work from the start. |
Sorry to nitpick, but that would be "is" allowed -- subject/verb agreement issue. |
Obviously, Glenski are speaking the Queen's English.  I suspect that it were getting late in his locale! |
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ancient_dweller
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Sorry, it didn't look big on my screen. Better now?
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hehe, yes, much better!
When I first put my picture up it was 1200 x 800 or so, i thought the system would change the size for me. |
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ancient_dweller
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| Obviously, Glenski are speaking the Queen's English. Laughing I suspect that it were getting late in his locale! |
it's tough writing comments on a forum for English teachers! |
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naturegirl321
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Many countries allow peopel on work visas to get their spouse dependent visas. Citizenship can be an issue, but shouldn't in your wife's case. Find out the rules before. With many countries, you can apply at the embassy for both visas at the same time.
Sometimes they can work on dependent visas, sometimes they can't. |
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