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RedDinosaur



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is a master's in education better or at least similar to PGDE?
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BadBeagleBad



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
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Afterwards I will decide if CELTA will be necessary. Currently, I'm searching for fun ways to teach the boring aspects of English that don't involve rote memorization


A CELTA would give you lots of ideas on how to do this Very Happy


And there are loads of books and journals that can help as well. Once you are settled look for an organization for ESL teachers, some have monthly meetings and/or conventions with workshops on a variety of topics. As Spiral mentioned a CELTA will give you lots of ideas for starting out, but it�s really an ongoing process, especially in the first few years, as you gather materials and plans that work for you.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

English has boring aspects?? Surprised
Not in my class Cool
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aspect. Nothing boring about this word. Trying to get a handle on what it really means can be quite the adventure...
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evolving81



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm finishing my M.A. in TESOL in a few weeks (finally) and I have no intention of going to get a certificate. I would think an advanced degree in teaching ESL would suffice. Although, I don't have a lot of teaching experience, and I'm not exactly sure where I want to teach.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With a new MA TESL and little experience, your options will still be limited in many regions. In my work on hiring committees, a candidate without supervised teaching practice is still very much an unknown quantity.
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evolving81



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess lucky for me that my M.A. program has two internships with supervised teaching experience. Should I say that explicitly on my resume? I've also been teaching one class a semester in an EAP program at a local community college. I only have experience teaching adults. I don't know that I want to try teaching children at this point.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you should include your supervised teaching experience on your resume (e.g., "Completed 135-hour ESL practicum"). Otherwise, the hiring committee might assume you have none and will most likely toss your resume into their circular file. You never want potential employers to have to guess if you possess the specific credentials they're looking for. Do the work for them, especially since they'll only spend about 10-15 seconds scanning your resume.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ditto nomadsoul's sage advice. Be sure your practicum is front and centre on your resume.
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evolving81



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the advice. I honestly did not know that I should even mention the practicum on my resume. I mention the classes I've taught, but not necessarily the supervised teaching info.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One way to indicate supervised teaching practice on your resume/CV:

M.A. in TESOL (included 135-hour ESL practicum) - 2011
Whatsitsname University, Anytown...
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RedDinosaur



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read from a lot of posters that its better to travel to the country and then look for jobs b/c employers would rather interview face to face (which is understandable).

My question is, isn't it illegal to look for work while travelling as a tourist? I know employers will get a work visa if they decide to hire an applicant but do I need a special visa just to look for work?
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RedDinosaur wrote:
I've read from a lot of posters that its better to travel to the country and then look for jobs b/c employers would rather interview face to face (which is understandable).

My question is, isn't it illegal to look for work while travelling as a tourist? I know employers will get a work visa if they decide to hire an applicant but do I need a special visa just to look for work?


Typically, no.

You can look for work, apply and interview on a tourist visa or tourist "visa waiver - entry on arrival stamp".

You CANNOT accept any remuneration for your time (cash or kind).

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ancient_dweller



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there may be some restrictions on employers in the UK to offer employment to people without a right to work. So, they will say 'if you have a right to work we will offer a job to you'. kind of the same thing i know...
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RedDinosaur



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see. So I can look for jobs but just don't actually begin to work w/o a work visa.

Thanks! ^_^
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