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posh



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's Scary! wrote:
with ARAMCO ... would've had a MUCH better cadre of students than can be found anywhere else in the ME


Hehe! You must be joking. Once these guys are given a salary to study, the study goes out of the window. I came across some real nasty pieces of work at Aramco. In and out of the classroom.

Nb. PGCE is a teaching certificate taken if the first degree is not in education. It's a year long course that allows you to work in the UK school system.
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It's Scary!



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

posh wrote:
It's Scary! wrote:
with ARAMCO ... would've had a MUCH better cadre of students than can be found anywhere else in the ME


Hehe! You must be joking. Once these guys are given a salary to study, the study goes out of the window. I came across some real nasty pieces of work at Aramco. In and out of the classroom.

I'm guessing, just guessing, that you worked for a contractor and taught the blue-collar tea-drinking crowd. The kind of grass that they're paying for what I was in contention for was the white-collar get-someone-else-to-go-through-the-labour-of-drinking-tea crowd.

Nb. PGCE is a teaching certificate taken if the first degree is not in education. It's a year long course that allows you to work in the UK school system.

Be that as it may, it's kinda of snarky and well, stupid, for them to say that our doors are wide open to all, and then, say, in essence, "If your alphabet soup differs from our alphabet soup, then, you're all wet."


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's Scary! wrote:
I'm guessing, just guessing, that you worked for a contractor and taught the blue-collar tea-drinking crowd. The kind of grass that they're paying for what I was in contention for was the white-collar get-someone-else-to-go-through-the-labour-of-drinking-tea crowd.


I have no idea what this means...
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really... seems pretty clear to me. Those hired by the recruiters are teaching the "blue collar" field workers, while the direct hires are teaching the "white collar" office and executive staff. It certainly would be a completely different teaching experience.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL Rolling Eyes
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Susie



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:19 pm    Post subject: Housing Allowance Reply with quote

Funny!

When you are given a housing allowance of x amount, and your housing costs are y amount (y being lesser than x), is it usual for you in the UAE to receive x - y with your salary?

Pluck reasonable figures out of the sky, but say:-

x= 20,000 pm
y = 15,000 pm
x-y = 5,000 pm
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helenl



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not at most government run institutions. They cut the cheque to the landlord, not you.
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Middle East Beast



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're given two options, (1) take their provided housing or (2) take an allowance, and you choose (2), then you get the allowance with your monthly salary and it's up to you how much you pay for a place of your choosing.

BTW, you're not going to get 20K per month for housing. AT HCT the allowance option amounted to 5K per month.

MEB Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:31 am    Post subject: salary questions Reply with quote

Does anyone know if the AE 18,000 quoted above include housing and air transportation?
In case you miss my other question-- any college to stay away from or preferred colleges?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:17 pm    Post subject: Re: salary questions Reply with quote

thegoodprofessor wrote:
Does anyone know if the AE 18,000 quoted above include housing and air transportation?
In case you miss my other question-- any college to stay away from or preferred colleges?


YES...avoid HCT like the Black Plague. The bacterium in this case is called administrationia/studentia/curriculumia/pdia/meetingia pestis.

It's resistant to all known antibiotics except resignacin.

MEB Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:18 pm    Post subject: Re: salary questions Reply with quote

Middle East Beast wrote:
YES...avoid HCT like the Black Plague. The bacterium in this case is called administrationia/studentia/curriculumia/pdia/meetingia pestis.

It's resistant to all known antibiotics except resignacin.

MEB Cool


I knew that my time was up with them when I got the lab results back one day and discovered that I was "HCT Negative"! Twisted Evil

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Shimokitazawa



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:13 am    Post subject: Re: salary questions Reply with quote

It's Scary! wrote:
Middle East Beast wrote:
YES...avoid HCT like the Black Plague. The bacterium in this case is called administrationia/studentia/curriculumia/pdia/meetingia pestis.

It's resistant to all known antibiotics except resignacin.

MEB Cool


I knew that my time was up with them when I got the lab results back one day and discovered that I was "HCT Negative"! Twisted Evil

It's Scary!


So what you're saying is that HCT is a great employer in terms of compensation, benefits, hours and great facilities and housing, but that the administration is not good with their foreign staff?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shimokitazawa wrote:
It's Scary! wrote:
Middle East Beast wrote:
YES...avoid HCT like the Black Plague. The bacterium in this case is called administrationia/studentia/curriculumia/pdia/meetingia pestis.

It's resistant to all known antibiotics except resignacin.

MEB Cool


I knew that my time was up with them when I got the lab results back one day and discovered that I was "HCT Negative"! Twisted Evil

It's Scary!


So what you're saying is that HCT is a great employer in terms of compensation, benefits, hours and great facilities and housing, but that the administration is not good with their foreign staff?


If it's job security you desire, then HCT is not for you. However, on the bright side, if it's being called into a hand-puppet of a "Director"'s office, someone who was so impersonal that you'd never met before on June 8th 2010 to be fired when you�re ready to begin your hard-earned vacation on June 10th 2010, then, that's the job for you!!!

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=81740

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's Scary! wrote:
Shimokitazawa wrote:
It's Scary! wrote:
Middle East Beast wrote:
YES...avoid HCT like the Black Plague. The bacterium in this case is called administrationia/studentia/curriculumia/pdia/meetingia pestis.

It's resistant to all known antibiotics except resignacin.

MEB Cool


I knew that my time was up with them when I got the lab results back one day and discovered that I was "HCT Negative"! Twisted Evil

It's Scary!


So what you're saying is that HCT is a great employer in terms of compensation, benefits, hours and great facilities and housing, but that the administration is not good with their foreign staff?


If it's job security you desire, then HCT is not for you. However, on the bright side, if it's being called into a hand-puppet of a "Director"'s office, someone who was so impersonal that you'd never met before on June 8th 2010 to be fired when you�re ready to begin your hard-earned vacation on June 10th 2010, then, that's the job for you!!!

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=81740

It's Scary!


That's terrible. But this was never verified by anyone involved and was just a rumor through he "grape vine".
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Middle East Beast



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:57 am    Post subject: Re: salary questions Reply with quote

Shimokitazawa wrote:
It's Scary! wrote:
Middle East Beast wrote:
YES...avoid HCT like the Black Plague. The bacterium in this case is called administrationia/studentia/curriculumia/pdia/meetingia pestis.

It's resistant to all known antibiotics except resignacin.

MEB Cool


I knew that my time was up with them when I got the lab results back one day and discovered that I was "HCT Negative"! Twisted Evil

It's Scary!


So what you're saying is that HCT is a great employer in terms of compensation, benefits, hours and great facilities and housing, but that the administration is not good with their foreign staff?


No:

Compensation-OK
Benefits-OK
Hours-Suck
Facilities-Suck
Housing-Sucks
Administration-Sucks
Students-Most of them suck
Curriculum-Sucks
PD-Sucks
Meetings-Frequent and suck



MEB Cool


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