Site Search:
 
Get TEFL Certified & Start Your Adventure Today!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Mental Health and Immigration
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Japan
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Ishi



Joined: 20 Feb 2010
Posts: 15

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the helpful advice! The medications I take are Citalipram for anxiety/depression, Trazodone to help me sleep because the Citalipram keeps me up, and Alprazolam for occasional use when the anxiety is more intense.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
CarolinaBen



Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 78

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since Citalipram (Celexa) is illegal in Japan, you might consider changing to Lexapro. The 2 drugs are very similar.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
G Cthulhu



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Posts: 1373
Location: Way, way off course.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CarolinaBen wrote:
Since Citalipram (Celexa) is illegal in Japan, you might consider changing to Lexapro. The 2 drugs are very similar.


It's illegal to bring in personally. You can import it, just not carry it in with you.

Buy it online if you can't get it shipped from your home country:
http://www.inhousepharmacy.biz/search.aspx?SearchTerm=Celexa
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ishi



Joined: 20 Feb 2010
Posts: 15

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it legal to import it, or just possible? Also, what about my other medications, Trazodone, and Alprazolam. Do any of you know if that is legal to carry in and/or possess?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
seklarwia



Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Posts: 1546
Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G Cthulhu wrote:
It's illegal to bring in personally. You can import it, just not carry it in with you.

Buy it online if you can't get it shipped from your home country:
http://www.inhousepharmacy.biz/search.aspx?SearchTerm=Celexa

I can't understand why if it's illegal to bring in personally, it could be legal to ship in.

Do you have an official link to support this?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ironclad80



Joined: 10 Sep 2009
Posts: 53

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's why I'm more careful these days, one day I might run into trouble.
For example, I'm going to Japan tomorrow for 9 days, normally I would just bring all the pills in my bottle but that would raise eyebrows so now I just bring the amount of how long I'm staying and leave the rest at home.

Glenski wrote:
It's customs, not immigration, that will detain you with medication.

Be very sure you understand the regulations, too. You may never have been caught, but who is to say that they won't select you for a random thorough inspection? Then what will you say, especially with bags of unmarked drugs?

http://japan.usembassy.gov/e/acs/tacs-medimport.html
Prescription Medications

Some U.S. prescription medications cannot be imported into Japan, even when accompanied by a customs declaration and a copy of the prescription. Japanese customs officials have detained travelers carrying prohibited items, sometimes for several weeks. Japanese customs officials do not make on-the-spot "humanitarian" exceptions for medicines that are prohibited in Japan.

Generally, up to one month's supply of allowable prescription medicine can be brought into Japan. Travelers must bring a copy of their doctor's prescription as well as a letter stating the purpose of the drug. Travelers who must carry more than one month's supply (except prohibited drugs and controlled drugs), or are carrying syringes (pumps), are required to obtain a so-called "Yakkan Shoumei", or an import certificate in advance, and show the "Yakkan Shoumei" certificate with your prescription medicines at the Customs.

For more information about bringing medicines into Japan and how to obtain a "Yakkan Shoumei" Certificate, please visit the website of the Kanto-Shinetsu Regional Bureau of Health and Welfare.


http://www.mhlw.go.jp/english/topics/import/index.html
http://ask.metafilter.com/169725/Psych-meds-in-Japan
http://factsanddetails.com/japan.php?itemid=835&catid=23&subcatid=151#15
http://www.japanpsychiatrist.com/Abstracts/TravelMed.pdf
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
G Cthulhu



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Posts: 1373
Location: Way, way off course.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seklarwia wrote:
I can't understand why if it's illegal to bring in personally, it could be legal to ship in.


How long have you lived in Japan?! :D
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
seklarwia



Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Posts: 1546
Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

G Cthulhu wrote:
How long have you lived in Japan?! Very Happy

What would that have to do with it?

I ask because I have medications of a diffirent nature that aren't approved in Japan. I was specifically told not to ship it in; that I must bring it in on my person with the relavent paperwork and declare it. I then have to sit in an interview room so that they grill me to double check that it is actually mine and not somebody fraudlently using paperwork to obtain meds to sell on the black market.

If a drug is illegal in a country, then it means that they don't want it in circulation. If people are allowed to ship it in, then whats to stop criminal doing just that to sell.

Now if there was a precedent that allowed me to get things shipped, it would save me all kinds grief because my doctors are not supposed to prescribe it in large quantities and many pharmacies simply refuse to hand over the stuff when they see the prescription quantity.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
David W



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Posts: 457
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ishi wrote:
Thanks for all the helpful advice! The medications I take are Citalipram for anxiety/depression, Trazodone to help me sleep because the Citalipram keeps me up, and Alprazolam for occasional use when the anxiety is more intense.

Xanax is called Solanax (ソラナックス) in Japan. Seems to be available in the 0.4mg and 0.8mg doses.
Trazodone is also available under the name Desyrel (デジレル) in the 25mg dose. In fact I just went to the doctor today to get a new prescription! I don't know about the other one sorry.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
G Cthulhu



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Posts: 1373
Location: Way, way off course.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seklarwia wrote:
G Cthulhu wrote:
How long have you lived in Japan?! :D

What would that have to do with it?

I ask because I have medications of a diffirent nature that aren't approved in Japan. I was specifically told not to ship it in; that I must bring it in on my person



Exactly that.

There are some things that are "illegal" to bring in personally, but you can have shipped. Others are illegal to ship but they allow you to bring in personally. There doesn't seem to be a lot of consistency or rationality on what is or isn't allowed. Ah, Japan: how we love your wonderful paper shufflers. :)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
seklarwia



Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Posts: 1546
Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G Cthulhu wrote:
There are some things that are "illegal" to bring in personally, but you can have shipped. Others are illegal to ship but they allow you to bring in personally. There doesn't seem to be a lot of consistency or rationality on what is or isn't allowed. Ah, Japan: how we love your wonderful paper shufflers. Smile

You still didn't answer my question: Do you have any official links to support what you are saying?

No offense, but anyone who would start shipping in illegal meds based purely on what someone said on the internet would be rather stupid.

Besides, as I said before, a list of shippable controlled substances could prove useful to me.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
G Cthulhu



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Posts: 1373
Location: Way, way off course.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seklarwia wrote:

You still didn't answer my question: Do you have any official links to support what you are saying?


You expect me to wade through Justice, Customs, Health, and Immigration websites to collate the info for you?!

What did your last slave die of?! Smile



(I've seen a summary table somewhere. I actually think it was on the Health ministry website. I'll see if I can find it again, although to be honest my Jpns reading skills are shite these days so I may not even recognize it when I see it! Otherwise, you're fresh out of luck from me, sorry.)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
G Cthulhu



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Posts: 1373
Location: Way, way off course.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, this is not what I wanted because it doesn't list all the categories and what is specifically banned under which conditions, but it's a starting point for your own research

http://www.mhlw.go.jp/english/topics/import/index.html

Or, if you prefer to do it in Jpns (which then links to more info to specifics)

http://www.mhlw.go.jp/topics/0104/tp0401-1.html

The Pharmaceutical Affairs Law might be worth a read. There's other stuff out there which impacts your question, but only if you know how to read it and relate it to the law. For example, http://www.mhlw.go.jp/topics/bukyoku/iyaku/yakkyoku/dl/101122_01.pdf

As I say, I know I've seen a list somewhere of what can be imported directly/personally and what can be mailed and the lists aren't the same, but I can't find it off hand, sorry.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
seklarwia



Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Posts: 1546
Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

G Cthulhu wrote:
You expect me to wade through Justice, Customs, Health, and Immigration websites to collate the info for you?!

What did your last slave die of?! Smile

Not at all. I assume that since you made the claim that a known illegal substance could be imported that you might have some info to back up the claim. You know as well as anyone just how harsh Japanese drug laws are, so I imagined that you had access to some hard evidence to support what you are saying.

I have done much research on my meds in particular and have been told by officials never to try importing any illegal substances which completely contradicts what you are saying. Now I'm not saying you are wrong. We all know how bad the ministries are at making sure all their officials are in the know of all the up-to-date regulations. We only have to look at all the confusions over visa issuing; I saw posters and heard people being told in the Japanese embassy in London that you can only get work visas issued outside Japan or that you must obtain them before entering Japan... something that hasn't been true for many years.

I've tried speaking to the authorities in Japan about my predicament and was basically told, "Well what were told before? ... Well if that was said, it must be true." Um, thanks for not even checking!
Even officials who do know something, are often really bad at volunteering the fact. The only sure way to get a proper answer is to walk in with an official document in hand and ask, "Can this be applied to me?"

Quote:
As I say, I know I've seen a list somewhere of what can be imported directly/personally and what can be mailed and the lists aren't the same, but I can't find it off hand, sorry.

I do not challenge that. Across the world, it's not just meds that are subject to different transportation restrictions. For example, ornamental weapons/armour/etc; it is normally fine to purchase and ship them home (depending on laws in the receiving country), but try taking a sword (or a suit of chainmail) on the plane... Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 12844
Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seklarwia wrote:
it is normally fine to purchase and ship them home (depending on laws in the receiving country), but try taking a sword (or a suit of chainmail) on the plane... Laughing
Actually, you can do that, too, but such items must be properly packaged and stowed, plus you may also need to provide certificates or other documentation. But it can be done.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Japan All times are GMT
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Page 2 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Teaching Jobs in China
Teaching Jobs in China