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[sheikh radlinrol]

[johnslat]

Here's an update:

"Some 16,000 officers will police London's streets in a bid to prevent a fourth night of rioting.

The Met Police has cancelled leave and drafted in support from 30 forces.

Shops and businesses in some areas are closing early in a bid to avoid the kind of violence and looting that spread through London on Monday.

PM David Cameron has pledged to restore order, recalling Parliament on Thursday in response to the "sickening scenes", which prompted unrest in other cities.

The Metropolitan force has released what it says will be the "first of many" CCTV images of rioting suspects, while 32 people have appeared in court charged with offences such as burglary and criminal damage during the previous riots.

Among them were a graphic designer, college students, a youth worker, a university graduate and a man signed up to join the army. Some gave non-London addresses. Eighteen were remanded in custody.

So far 563 people have been arrested and 105 charged in connection with violence in the capital.

However, the force has drafted in special constables and community support officers to ensure five times the usual number of officers for a Tuesday will be on duty. Similar staffing levels will be maintained over three days.

Meanwhile, Scotland Yard said a 26-year-old man found shot in a car in Croydon, amid rioting in the south London town, had died in hospital.

Mr Cameron met officers in the Met Police's Gold command in Lambeth on Tuesday afternoon, before speaking to emergency service personnel in Croydon.

He condemned the "sickening scenes of people looting, vandalising, thieving, robbing".

He told rioters: "You will feel the full force of the law. And if you are old enough to commit these crimes, you are old enough to face the punishment."

The recall of Parliament will allow MPs to "stand together in condemnation of these crimes and to stand together in determination to rebuild these communities", he said.

The prime minister returned early from his holiday in Tuscany to discuss the unrest, which first flared on Saturday after a peaceful protest in Tottenham over the fatal shooting of Mark Duggan, 29, by police.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) said on Tuesday that ballistic tests presented "no evidence" that a handgun found at the scene where Mr Duggan was killed had been fired at officers.

London has seen a wave of "copycat criminal activity" since the initial disturbance, the Met Police said.

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Stephen Kavanagh said the use of plastic bullets - never before fired to deal with riots in England - would be "considered carefully" in the event of further disorder.

'No Army'
But he added: "That does not mean we are scared of using any tactic."

Acting Commissioner Tim Godwin had earlier ruled out calling in the Army.

Officers believe some rioters have used BlackBerry Messenger - a service allowing users to send free real-time messages - to organise violence.

Meanwhile, two 18-year-olds were arrested in Folkestone, Kent, and a 16-year-old was being questioned in Glasgow on suspicion of inciting violence through internet social networking sites.

Tuesday evening has brought reports of a disturbance in Salford, Greater Manchester, where 70 to 80 young people are in a standoff with police, and West Bromwich where youths have smashed shop windows.

Developments related to Monday's disturbances included:

Violence and looting reported across London, including in Hackney, Croydon, Clapham Junction, Peckham, Lewisham, Stratford and Ealing
Three people being questioned on suspicion of attempted murder after a police officer was injured by a car in Wembley, north-west London, while trying to stop suspected looters
Buildings set alight in several areas, including Croydon where part of the Tramlink service was suspended
In Birmingham, 138 people were arrested after scores of youths smashed windows and looted shops in the shopping area
West Midlands Police said a police station in Holyhead Road in Handsworth, Birmingham, was set alight
Up to 200 youths with masks roamed through Toxteth in Liverpool, while Bristol police said they dealt with outbreaks of disorder involving about 150 people
A Nottinghamshire police station was attacked in the St Ann's area and 200 tyres were set alight in the street
Police dealt with "small pockets of disorder" in the Chapeltown area of Leeds
The Association of British Insurers says the damage is likely to cost insurers "tens of millions of pounds".

Monday's violence started in Hackney, north London, at about 16:20 BST after a man was stopped and searched by police, who found nothing.

Groups of people began attacking officers, wrecking cars with wooden poles and metal bars, and looting shops. Violence then flared separately in other parts of the capital.

'No justification'
Mayor of London Boris Johnson, who also cut short a holiday to return, was heckled by the members of the public while viewing damage in Clapham Junction on Tuesday.

Some people have complained there have been too few police to deal with the violence.

Mr Johnson told those gathered that those responsible for the violence "face punishment they will bitterly, bitterly regret".

However, when challenged to do more for communities, Mr Johnson rejected "economic or social justifications" for the violence.

The Met said Monday's was "the worst" disorder in "current memory" after incidents across the capital.

It has led to sporting disruption, with Tuesday's Carling Cup matches at Charlton, West Ham, Crystal Palace and Bristol City postponed at the police's request."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14460554

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14459127

Regards,
John

[Phil_K]

[ancient_dweller]

[reddevil79]

Best article I've read so far:

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/anarchy-reigns-and-a-nation-struggles-to-understand-why-20110809-1il4a.html

[ancient_dweller]

[ancient_dweller]

[Phil_K]

[ancient_dweller]

[Phil_K]

[ancient_dweller]

phil_k - i have to disagree with you. The state is as much responsible for their behaviour as they are. A child is born into poverty and told they are scum, they will never go anywhere and they start to believe it. They have nothing to lose. Clearly, this is true, and not liberal jibberish, because i don't see many youths with an affluent appearance in any of the footage.

[ancient_dweller]

komsomolskaya pravda:

Британия расплачивается за толерантность

fantastic!

[ancient_dweller]

На вопрос �Как дела?� англичанин обычно отвечает, не задумываясь, �по трафарету�: �прекрасно� или �ОК�. А тут Саймон выдает целую тираду:.

- Ужас! Что они тут вытворяют! Бегают толпами с металлическими и деревянными палками, бутылками, мусорными баками. У многих, правда, мобильники и они переговариваются друг с другом. Явно координируют действия через соцсети� Вопли, гогот, ругань. Из магазинов вынесли буквально все. Наша улица разгромлена. Будто началась война.

[Phil_K]

[eurobound]

The disorder has now spread to Birmingham, Manchester, and Salford. Residential houses on fire tonight in Salford and Manchester, Salford Precint on fire, etc etc...

But then again, I suppose the state is as much to blame as the offenders