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mrwslee003
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Cash-yes. Each month we received 5000 rmb cash, the real McCoy.
You have to do the rebanking.... I think they don't trust auto deposit so
they feel we don't trust auto deposit as well.
No big deal, I just place this big bundle in my brief case until I
get to the bank. 50 X100's is not much. Theft at school is not a problem.
Chinese beer is cheap, this can buy you lots at 2rmb/1can. |
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Miles Smiles
Joined: 07 Jun 2010
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Location: Heebee Jeebee
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Shroob wrote: |
Thanks for the info on Jiaxing.
Just another question - I have been sent an example contract where it says the teacher will be paid in cash - is this usual?
Thanks again. |
This is normal. One caveat: you may not be able to convert the cash to other countries' currency because in some cases, the FT is paid in cash because the school isn't reporting your income to the powers that be, so you won't be able to pay tax on it.
When you go to convert rmb to whatever, you MAY be asked for proof of having paid tax on your earnings. This is one of many obstacles that I have encountered this year regarding converting cash.
Your mileage may vary. I hope that yours varies greatly from mine. |
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Shroob
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the reassurance. There's a bit in the sample contract that states I can convert no more than 70% of earnings into foreign currency.
The "interview" with the public school at the start of this thread didn't go well at all, I phoned the number provided and a woman answered who turned out to work for another recruitment agency, she tried to get me to work at her language school, which I was disappointed about as I thought I would talk to someone at the school, so I've given up on that job.
I tried to speak to someone from the university today, however skype wasn't working for them so we had to made do with a text based conversation. They have given me the contact information for one of their past teachers, so I've sent them an email.
I've also got an interview with another university tomorrow, in Huainan. Hopefully this one will go well and I'll be able to speak to past/current foreign teachers to get their opinions.
Thanks again for all your advice and support. |
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mrwslee003
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| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:29 am Post subject: |
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Formal FTs are mostly reliable but not 100%. I got connected to one before my final decision but he turned out to be "not here and not there".
My point is: sometimes you have to use your own intuition and walk on
the line and take a chance, be adventurous, yet not with closed eyes.
Sometimes the anticipation of a certain unknown is what makes life
exciting and meaningful, try not to be afraid of problems, yet not
deliberately place yourself in danger's path.
Does that make sense to you? |
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Shroob
Joined: 02 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| mrwslee003 wrote: |
Formal FTs are mostly reliable but not 100%. I got connected to one before my final decision but he turned out to be "not here and not there".
My point is: sometimes you have to use your own intuition and walk on
the line and take a chance, be adventurous, yet not with closed eyes.
Sometimes the anticipation of a certain unknown is what makes life
exciting and meaningful, try not to be afraid of problems, yet not
deliberately place yourself in danger's path.
Does that make sense to you? |
Yes - try not to be afriad of the unknowns ahead but keep your wits about you  .
To be honest, I'm favouring a position at Anhui University of Science and Technology. I've had enough job offers/sample contracts so I'm going to sit down this afternoon and really go over them. In summay I've had offers from:
EF Hangzhou
20 hours (more in peak seasons)
Shared accommodation - teacher pays utilities
6,5000 RMB
22 days holiday
York School of Foreign Languages(Fuzhou)
15-18 hours teaching
Shared accommodation - teacher pays utilities
6,500 RMB
22 days holiday
Huanggang Polytechnic College
16 hours a week (+ 2 hours English corner).
Private accommodation - school pays water, electricity and internet (no gas)
4,500 RMB
Winter holiday and 1 week in October (paid). End of Sept. to June 30th.
Anhui University of Science and Technology
16 hours a week
Private accommodation - school pays electricity up to 100KW/month
4,500 RMB
Winter holiday and all national holidays.
I'm leaning towards the two university positions. The contracts are written a bit different but they are basically the same.
Thanks again for the support you have shown me. |
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xjgirl
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| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| wheres huanggang? |
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Shroob
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| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| wheres huanggang? |
Huanggang City is a major municipality (also known as a Prefecture) in eastern Hubei Province, China. It is situated to the north of the middle reaches of the Yangtze River and is bounded in the north by the Dabie Shan mountain range.
From wikipedia.
It's just outside Wuhan, about 850km west of Shanghai.
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dean_a_jones
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Location: Wuhan, China
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Shroob
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry for the constant questioning - but how reputable is XISU (Xi'an International Studies Univesity), I may be offered a job with them (same deal as other universities BUT the pay is 3,500/month. I have been in contact with a number of teachers and they speak highly of it. One said there are opportunities to do outside teaching to boost the wage. |
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dean_a_jones
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Location: Wuhan, China
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:08 am Post subject: |
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| Shroob wrote: |
| Sorry for the constant questioning - but how reputable is XISU (Xi'an International Studies Univesity), I may be offered a job with them (same deal as other universities BUT the pay is 3,500/month. I have been in contact with a number of teachers and they speak highly of it. One said there are opportunities to do outside teaching to boost the wage. |
Even though you stated earlier that you had no teaching experience, that is a pretty awful salary. You said the same deal as other universities--they had better be paying for all the extras if you take that (good housing, permits, utilities, internet, decent flight allowance, travel allowance).
You said other teachers stated there are outside opportunities. Remember that as a first time teacher, you might find that your planning etc. takes a while. This really comes down to how many different courses you teach--but I would expect to match your teaching hours in terms of prep time, at least in the first semester. It takes a while to get a hang of it and build up materials (at least it does if you want to do a half decent job). Obviously the more support you get from the school (in terms of planned courses, materials given to you, repetition of a single course) the easier this becomes.
I note this because some teachers who have been around even for a year or two (not necessarily at the same place) may have build this up, gained their experience, and are able take on those extra hours (which may also require their own planning). |
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Shroob
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| dean_a_jones wrote: |
| Shroob wrote: |
| Sorry for the constant questioning - but how reputable is XISU (Xi'an International Studies Univesity), I may be offered a job with them (same deal as other universities BUT the pay is 3,500/month. I have been in contact with a number of teachers and they speak highly of it. One said there are opportunities to do outside teaching to boost the wage. |
Even though you stated earlier that you had no teaching experience, that is a pretty awful salary. You said the same deal as other universities--they had better be paying for all the extras if you take that (good housing, permits, utilities, internet, decent flight allowance, travel allowance).
Yes they pay all the bills. I've asked to see a sample contract. The salary is poor, it's what is putting me off. If the salary was just that bit higher, I would take this one. Numerous teachers have all replied to emails, I haven't heard back from any of the other contacts the other unis have provided.
You said other teachers stated there are outside opportunities. Remember that as a first time teacher, you might find that your planning etc. takes a while. This really comes down to how many different courses you teach--but I would expect to match your teaching hours in terms of prep time, at least in the first semester. It takes a while to get a hang of it and build up materials (at least it does if you want to do a half decent job). Obviously the more support you get from the school (in terms of planned courses, materials given to you, repetition of a single course) the easier this becomes.
Yes - from the CELTA course I am aware how long a lesson plan takes. I definitely want to do a decent job, part of the reason I enrolled on a CELTA course, to gain the confidence to at least have an idea of how to plan/deliver a lesson (I know it's only a starting qualification).
I note this because some teachers who have been around even for a year or two (not necessarily at the same place) may have build this up, gained their experience, and are able take on those extra hours (which may also require their own planning). |
Thanks for the advice.
I have decided to narrow it down between XISU and Anhui University. Anhui Uni is also offering a 'training course' for me, at a cost of 1,000 to 3,000 RMB due to my lack of experience, if I go on it they will up the wage to 5,000RMB/Month (from 4,500RMB/Month).
EDIT: I forgot to say Jiangsu Uni is also in the running. |
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LarssonCrew
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:25 am Post subject: |
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XISU should be fine, reliable, have some guan xi so I think visa is no problem.
HOWEVER, they are a serious foreign languages university, so you will have to work harder.
As a side note, 3,500 is fairly awful, YES, I get this, but my university give me 4 hours of work a week, visa, accomodation and all bills, internet, and a flight home [not a cash sum or 'up to 6000' etc., I get the price of the ticket paid for..]
So yeah, it gives me much free time. |
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Shroob
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| LarssonCrew wrote: |
XISU should be fine, reliable, have some guan xi so I think visa is no problem.
HOWEVER, they are a serious foreign languages university, so you will have to work harder.
As a side note, 3,500 is fairly awful, YES, I get this, but my university give me 4 hours of work a week, visa, accomodation and all bills, internet, and a flight home [not a cash sum or 'up to 6000' etc., I get the price of the ticket paid for..]
So yeah, it gives me much free time. |
Yeah - the pay is pretty awful. Though as it's my first job I would trade pay for security/reliablility.
How would you say standard of living would be like on 3,500?
Edit: What does 'guan xi' mean? |
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xjgirl
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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i'd go for xi'an even though the pay is low, it's a great place and really cheap muslim food in the muslim quarter with lots of backpackers u can shag.
u'll meet loads of good people there, and experience great food and culture
but if you're in anyway sensitive with allergies, chest,nose etc, anhui might be a better bet, sounds like they're going to treat u well, with their
training course and salary increase etc |
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xjgirl
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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i forgot to say, the training course shud be free
in fact it sounds kinda sneaky, 
3000 divided by 6 is 6 months at 500
so u'd only have an increase in salary for 4 months, and who knows how they'd try to nickel and dime u out of that too |
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