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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:42 am    Post subject: Pay Raises Reply with quote

For those of you that are long term, regularly employed...what kind of pay raises are typical where you work year to year?

Inflation is around 4% or so...are raises following inflation?
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Enchilada Potosina



Joined: 03 Aug 2010
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Location: Mexico

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Payrises?!!! Don't think they exist in SLP. If you want a payrise here, get a better paying job. If not you'll find your quality of life in slow-motion free-fall.
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mejms



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've worked at universities and language institutes and never heard any mention of possibilities of a raise for teachers. The institutes were nothing serious. The unis were even worse because they take themselves seriously.
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BadBeagleBad



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mejms wrote:
I've worked at universities and language institutes and never heard any mention of possibilities of a raise for teachers. The institutes were nothing serious. The unis were even worse because they take themselves seriously.


I have gone from $120 per hour 4 years ago to between $150 and $180 now. Have had three jobs, one I am still in, and have gotten about a 30% raise in the two years I have been there. I know in a lot of places (not just language related) where raises are not common, case in point, I have a friend who a Bi-lingual secretary in the Bank of Mexico. She reached top pay for her pay grade 11 years ago, and hasn�t gotten a raise since. Ditto for one of my sisters in law, she hasn�t gotten a raise in 6 or 7 years, and won�t be getting one before she retires in the next couple of years. On the other hand, she will be retiring in her 50�s, from a government job, so will have a decent pension and has enjoyed very nice benefits through the years.
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doublethinker



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At my workplace they offered a 1% raise. Woo hoo...
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a good case for being self-employed in Mexico, then it's in our hands. I think most of us know and enjoy something other than teaching... as I think the general consensus is that that isn't a good route to go for self-employment.
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Enchilada Potosina



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_K wrote:
Looks like a good case for being self-employed in Mexico, then it's in our hands. I think most of us know and enjoy something other than teaching... as I think the general consensus is that that isn't a good route to go for self-employment.

Phil is right. If you ask your Mexican colleagues what else they do for a living, you'll probably find (as I did) that teaching is not their main job, meaning they don't live from it. They just do it as a sideline.
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doublethinker



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree. My Mexican coworkers are full-time teachers and it's their main gig. They do very well at my school salary-wise. (Of course, they have to put up with a huge workload and crazy work environment, but they put up with it for the pay.)
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Doublethinker, but we're talking about pay raises here, and it looks like they just ain't getting them. I was talking about a way of improving ones standard of living. Of course, if someone is happy to continue working for the same pay year on year (effectively losing due to inflation), then fair enough...
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

doublethinker wrote:
At my workplace they offered a 1% raise. Woo hoo...


Does your school have anything in place like a performance evaluation scheme to determine year to year raises? COL allowances? 1% doesn't cover inflation so I suspect not. This is what I was looking for in starting the thread...
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doublethinker



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, we do in theory... but... you know.

You're right, our salaries don't keep up with inflation. However, I disagree with the idea that teaching can't be a viable career here.

However I work in a bilingual colegio, not in ESL per se.
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Enchilada Potosina



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apart from a very small minority of jobs, teaching is only a viable career for bumming around Mexico under the pretense of learning Spanish while having some kind of cultural zeitgeist experience. On the other hand, if you're a good teacher, you can do well. Charge what you think you're worth and you might be surprised who's willing to pay.
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MotherF



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't the Quinqenio one of the "prestaciones de la ley"?

We get cost of living increment each year, accounding to the rise in the minimum wage because what we get paid is technically in minimum wages. For example you might get paid two minimum wages, 200 minimum wages, or anywhere in between depending on your job in the institution. So whenever the minimum wage is adjusted for inflation, so is everyone's salary.

And the Quiquenio is a longevity bonus. After completing 5 years with the organization your quigueno is equal to 1% of your base pay. It goes up 1% each year after that--so in that first year you are kind of like. Whoopie 1%! Rolling Eyes But after 10 years you are getting 10% more, which is pretty nice.
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enchilada Potosina wrote:
Apart from a very small minority of jobs, teaching is only a viable career for bumming around Mexico under the pretense of learning Spanish while having some kind of cultural zeitgeist experience. On the other hand, if you're a good teacher, you can do well. Charge what you think you're worth and you might be surprised who's willing to pay.


Ah! That's the problem; I'm not a good teacher! Wink (No sarcasm intended, I mean it!)
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amaranto



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't speak for teacher raises, but as an in-house legal translator at a law firm in Mexico City, my salary is adjusted for inflation each year, and I've always gotten some kind of performance bonus.

On the freelance side, I tend to adjust my rates for new clients and negotiate better rates with new agencies that hire me.
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