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creztor
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bluetortilla, Glenski has been extremely helpful and provided a lot of information. Hats off to him for that and good to see you thanked him for it.
From the little I know, MAs in other Asian countries will get you mostly the same. A classroom full of students who aren't motivated and don't want to be there. Again, I am SURE there are jobs out there with students who are eager to learn, but I am just talking the basics. I believe a certain K country is the best to go to if you want to bank money. Japan? We won't go there, but then what does that leave you with? China? Lots of opportunity, but how does that work for you? You would most likely need to be a network up, learn some of the local language and spend a few years doing your homework. Until that happens you would have to live on 6k - 8k RMB a month. There's nothing wrong with that, but I am sure you could do the same or more in Japan. I guess that's my point. Besides the Big K and Big C, what other Asian countries have the market and money for an MA holder? |
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bluetortilla
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Location: Henan
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, hats off to Glenski. You're our tireless crusader friend! God broke the mold so to speak with you. I didn't mean to bark at him. He just makes me feel dumb sometimes, he's so super smart!
I'm not finding out much about positions in universities around Asia, so I'm still waiting. There must be though. That's why I started this thread!
All my life Creztor I've been wanting to country hop. I've got wanderlust. The only thing that's kept me in Japan (it's a nice place as I've said many times), is my now broken up family. It's a long personal story but I'm now freed up at this point to move on. It's happy and sad, bittersweet, sweet and sour...
Getting older I find I don't care too much about money for myself though I'd like to save for my kids. Have a passion for the tropics and the stories I've been reading on the forum don't sound bad at all! Depends on how you live. I live modestly (didn't used to!).
Not much interest in K or C (or KFC), would rather stay in Japan. However, Yunan and other southern areas of C might be interesting. Thanks! |
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Glenski
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| bluetortilla wrote: |
And I'm utterly flabbergasted that you use expressions like 'utterly flabbergasted.'  kidding |
So, you still have never heard in your 20 years of living in Japan that unis are closing and/or merging?
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| Seriously, Glenski you're a wealth of information and very helpful but you don't have to pick my life apart or assault my flaws in logic. I don't want controversy. |
I'm not picking your life apart. I'm reviewing facts for my own sake, for the sake of readers (so they don't have to hop to other threads), and for your own sake.
As for assaulting flaws in logic, yes, it needs to be done. How else will someone guide you? Do you want to proceed on improper logic at your age?
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| Getting an MA here, reopening a school...deciding on a new life and just doing it...being successful.. What does a person in a hole do? |
I told you. I guess you didn't read carefully. Please go back and reread the paragraph after the largest section I wrote. It's all there.
No one said it's easy or straightforward, but the answer is there.
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| But i don't think you've ever been in a hole, so I can see why you might be flabbergasted. |
You know nothing about me or my life. I have indeed been in such holes. I'm out. Let's keep the thread on the topic you started: your problems.
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| So I think you have perhaps a little too much concern for smallish Bluetortilla. |
1. You are not "smallish".
2. I have no idea what it means to have too much concern. Are you complaining now for someone giving you professional and personal advice when that's what you came here for? Sorry, you lost me.
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| I'm in a decision making process with a lot to consider. Nothing needs to be done tomorrow. |
You said in July that you want to make a plan in 6 months. That's approaching "tomorrow", in case you didn't realize it.
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| I'm not trying to discourage anyone. Indeed, I think great things are coming. I'm optimistic. I'm not stuck, but you seem to think I am. I'm not indecisive. I'm looking at things, and measuring. You can't run in two directions at once so be careful which direction you run in. |
You give the impression of being indecisive, complaining, and stuck (definitely stuck!). Kind of hard to read it any other way.
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| And Fukuoka is NOT cheap! It's a big city and costs about the same as Tokyo (except rent). Is anywhere in Japan cheap? |
Stop asking such innocent questions. You're almost 50 years old. Haven't you learned how to live frugally?
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| How about those other 'General Asia' countries? What can you do with an MA? |
You've gotten information from creztor and tttompatz about them already. I don't think you're going to get more people randomly popping in here just to answer such a general question. I'll once again vacate this thread to keep it off any Japan-related sidetracks (or any other sidetracks that you seem to think I've put it on). I strongly suggest you pause from posting, digest the info creztor and tttompatz (and others) have given you on certain countries, do some Internet research on your own, and then come back with specific country-related questions. Those should be more beneficial. Best of luck.
Meanwhile, just so you don't think I've been the least bit helpful on Asia, I'll suggest that you look around for other sites and materials like these.
http://www.eslcafe.com/bookstore/asia.html
http://www.oocities.org/eflinasia/
http://www.amazon.com/Teaching-English-South-East-Nuala-OSullivan/dp/0844208779
http://www.teach-international.com/2/teaching-english-in-asia.html
http://ald.net/~roden/korea/pages/links.htm
Or just go to the country-specific forums on the Cafe and ask there. |
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creztor
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| bluetortilla, you mention not worrying too much about money, but also wanting to save for your child/children. Remember that getting your MA, at most places, will cost a considerable chunk of change, $10 - $15k USD?, so that's why I thought about making the most money possible. If it doesn't matter, then I think you could pick just about any country in Asia. Find some place with weather, people, and culture you like and just do it. Not worrying about money really does open up the opportunities, which is a good thing. Best of luck. |
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bluetortilla
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bluetortilla
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| And thanks for the links. It is appreciated. |
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bluetortilla
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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| creztor wrote: |
| bluetortilla, you mention not worrying too much about money, but also wanting to save for your child/children. Remember that getting your MA, at most places, will cost a considerable chunk of change, $10 - $15k USD?, so that's why I thought about making the most money possible. If it doesn't matter, then I think you could pick just about any country in Asia. Find some place with weather, people, and culture you like and just do it. Not worrying about money really does open up the opportunities, which is a good thing. Best of luck. |
Don't know if it's a great school or not, but Payap University in Thailand is offering an MA in TESL or Linguistics for about 5000 USD.
I'm very interested in 'local' universities over branches, which seem to be much more expensive. But I've heard that local university degrees don't carry much clout. Is that true and if so I wonder why not? Is that true for only certain regions? |
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creztor
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It depends on what you want to do with it. I have seen jobs from the ME that clearly state that your degree must be one obtained from an Anglophone country. This basically rules out any degrees obtained from Asia, at least ones that involve teaching English. On the other hand, if you weren't headed to the ME, then it wouldn't really matter, would it?
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bluetortilla
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That sounds encouraging. No, I certainly have no plans or desires to teach in the ME, but I think you can make a lot of money there even w/out an MA, right?
I think it would be fun to go to local campus in Asia as long as the MA were good all over the region. |
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bluetortilla
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Wow, Imam! That's really expensive. I'm showing 25,000 SD per annum as an international participant, and 15000 as a permanent resident.
I'm getting 1 SD as .80 USD.
Am I missing something? Can't afford that! |
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