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Sashadroogie
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JimJam
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I love London, the smell of the city, the way of life, and my every morning jogging in Hyde Park.
Moscow smells like a dustbin and the Russians don't have a concept of jogging, it is called "spot the used syringe".
I don't love England but at least the people there have, for the most part, common decency in public. If you have money why oh why would you want to live in a country with no civil society.
A few years ago they had to make it a law that the police have to help people in distress - they actually had to threaten the police with prosecution if they didn't do the most basic element of their job.
What business man would want to live in a country where the tax officials are so corrupt they steal millions in illegal tax funds and then murder your lawyer when he find out (http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/hermitage-capital-tax-officials-stole-33m/443447.html)?
As I tell my students: Moscow is a great place to steal it and London is a great place to spend it.
So I think the 'leading questions' are entirely justified in this article. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Common decency in public? In some ways this is true, in others no. How many public flower-beds get ripped up in Moscow? Now contrast that to London where vandalism seems embedded into the 'culture'. And this is when people are not having the odd riot or two... |
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GF
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Regarding riots, the British police could use a few pointers from OMON on how to deal with rioters. |
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JimJam
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
| How many public flower-beds get ripped up in Moscow? |
How many public flower beds are there in Moscow?
It's an overused stereotype that Russians are unfriendly until you get to know them. But it's overused because it's true. We all have really great friends here but we also all get pushed around on the metro; see the bin fires when they can't be bothered to put out their cigs; see the piles of trash in what would be beautiful forests; shrug our shoulders when we get atrocious service; allow people to push in front of us in queues to avoid a black eye; endlessly get short changed and ripped off in a variety of contexts.
Again I don't want to compare Russia to the UK because they're both shit-holes in their own way but I think that since the reasons for moving from Moscow to London are obvious leading questions are valid. Maybe these questions would seem strange if someone was moving from a country not run by gangsters.
| GF wrote: |
| the British police could use a few pointers from OMON |
Bringing the OMON to the UK would have been a great short term solution. And then in the UK people would be able to identify criminals as easily as we do in Russia: they're the ones in the police uniforms.
As far as I remember the last time there was a gay rights parade in St Petersburg the OMON and the skinheads were on the same team so maybe it's not a long term option. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry JimJam. I don't know where you are coming from exactly, but it does not relate to my 7 years' experience in Moscow... |
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jpvanderwerf2001
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| Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:34 am Post subject: |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
| Sorry JimJam. I don't know where you are coming from exactly, but it does not relate to my 7 years' experience in Moscow... |
Um...hic?  |
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