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grahamlist



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:14 am    Post subject: Working and the Visa Reply with quote

I am from Canada, so we are on the same exemption list for a 30 day non Visa exemption. I saw one of your fellow Americans writing about his 60 day exemption. First and foremost someone please tell me how I get this? Next question is the Visa run. Let's say I am not working. The rules keep changing so how often can I cross the border and reenter? Lastly for now is this degree issue. I was in University two years, followed by a professional trades course, plus a real estate commerce program, etc., etc. I cannot give one transcript explaining for years of education, but tons of paperwork to surely prove my equated education definitely will meet the requirements. After all my girlfriend has a degree in tourism, and no offense to her but that is about as educated as a degree in counting tree rings.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:13 am    Post subject: Re: Working and the Visa Reply with quote

grahamlist wrote:
I am from Canada, so we are on the same exemption list for a 30 day non Visa exemption. I saw one of your fellow Americans writing about his 60 day exemption. First and foremost someone please tell me how I get this? Next question is the Visa run. Let's say I am not working. The rules keep changing so how often can I cross the border and reenter? Lastly for now is this degree issue. I was in University two years, followed by a professional trades course, plus a real estate commerce program, etc., etc. I cannot give one transcript explaining for years of education, but tons of paperwork to surely prove my equated education definitely will meet the requirements. After all my girlfriend has a degree in tourism, and no offense to her but that is about as educated as a degree in counting tree rings.


Lots of stuff so let's see if we can get them all covered.

visa:

30 days - visa waiver, entry on arrival. Can extend for 7 days at a cost of b1900. No further extension is possible. You must leave the Kingdom after 37 days.

60 days - double entry - obtain from a Thai consulate in Canada. Each entry can be extended for 30 days at a cost of b1900 each time.
(enter for 60 days, extend for 30, do a border run and repeat). At the end of your 6 months you have to leave the country and obtain a new visa.

Simple border runs you get 15 days on re-entry and after a few of them they may and often do refuse entry.

working:
you need a non-immigrant "B" visa to legally work.
You need an employer to sponsor you for this visa.
The visa is good for 90 days.
BEFORE the 90 days expires you need to obtain a work permit before you can get the visa extended.
If you have a work permit they will extend the visa for 9 months (making your stay 1 calendar year). This can be further extended in 1 year increments.

To get a work permit (as a teacher) and with darn few exceptions (maybe you are OK working out in the jungle villages of northern Thailand), you NEED a bachelors degree.
They (immigration, Thai Council of Teachers, and the Labor Office) will NOT accept a mishmash of other stuff as some sort of equivalence to a degree.

If also means that if you do try this route you will either be working illegally and at the bottom end of the pay scales. You'd be better off working in Cambodia or Indonesia where a degree is not a requirement yet.

Your G/F may have a degree in tourism and it may be as educated as a degree in counting tree rings (degrees in biology are certainly worth having) but at least she has the degree and can get a job working legally.

Point in fact, she will probably have an easy time finding work in a vocational school / college that specializes in Hospitality/Tourism.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:20 pm    Post subject: girlfriend degree Reply with quote

Okay, let's say my girlfriend wants to teach. Before I leave Canada, other than a passport what does she need. I am not worried about the language course for either of us because we can do it there. She has a piece of paper that is her diploma, but transcripts would have to be ordered from the school. Do they need to be sealed, hand delivered by her? The school definitely won't mail them to Thailand. Surely Thailand knows you can buy fake diplomas and transcripts, do they not know, or not care?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:52 pm    Post subject: Re: girlfriend degree Reply with quote

grahamlist wrote:
Okay, let's say my girlfriend wants to teach. Before I leave Canada, other than a passport what does she need. I am not worried about the language course for either of us because we can do it there. She has a piece of paper that is her diploma, but transcripts would have to be ordered from the school. Do they need to be sealed, hand delivered by her? The school definitely won't mail them to Thailand. Surely Thailand knows you can buy fake diplomas and transcripts, do they not know, or not care?


If she wants to work in Thailand she will need her degree, university issued transcript (sealed for the better schools) and, depending on where she is getting the visa from (Canada or Cambodia) a criminal background check (from the local police/RCMP).

What else do you /she need?
a 60 day, double entry tourist visa would be a good thing.
A ticket home (or funds to cover it) if things go pear shaped on you (a very real possibility if you don't have a work permit; it's not like you can go and complain (without getting arrested yourself) about not getting paid if you are illegal.

Do they know about fake diplomas = yes.
Do some people use them = yes.
Do some people get caught, detained then finally deported after getting caught = yes.

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