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[maria1001]

Could someone give me an idea of what a reasonable salary is in Vietnam for someone with 4 plus years teaching experience? Thanks

[yogurtpooh]

It depends on how old you, how white you look, how many hours you're working, maybe even the type of courses you'll be teaching,what kind of schools, perhaps credentials aside from experience, and what city you'll be in... all that and more.

[Kornan DeKobb]

That is way too insufficient information to get any meaningful answer. How about mentioning the levels of your experience, your degree(s), if you are a native English speaker, where have you taught, whether you have a CELTA, what type of place and/or levels you are looking to teach at, etc.

[mark_in_saigon]

We are seeing a tendency from newer posters to put up these very brief questions that do not detail their personal situations in any meaningful way. Perhaps posters think it is easier for people living here to address every possible scenario than it is for the poster to describe his/her situation in detail. I have come to expect and accept fear of making mistakes by the natives, but we are supposed to be English specialists. Why are we reluctant to use our own language effectively?

I do see a trend for people to not want to write anymore, it is becoming a lost skill, instead, writing is what you do with text messages. I would not even be surprised if some posters are using hand held devices with no keyboards to post their messages. The natives are abandoning email for instant messaging, and now moving to text messages as their favored way of "writing". I suppose most of our own people are doing the same.

I would suggest to people who do not want to give meaningful detail to instead search the site. You will learn a lot, and see a lot of answers to the different scenarios that are out there. If you want a meaningful answer for your particulars, it is likely only going to come if you give a detailed question.

[The Mad Hatter]

Why should people give their personal details about their situations in Vietnam? There are not that many situations going around. I don't think it can be equated with a desire to not wish to make mistakes in grammar as English specialists. Perhaps they ARE using our language effectively, when one know's there is a time and place, both to and not to speak. For example, I know very successful teachers who's greatest tool to advance in ELT is silence. Silence about references, silence about job tips, and while climbing the ladder of advancement at the office. When competing for dwindling teaching jobs, silence is a very effective tool to appear to be more in charge and at a higher social status. Once you open your mouth others can then size you up, collect details , find your weak points, and plan their strategy to take you job. While if they appear silent, it retains the mystery, and keeps the competition second guessing, and unable to act. This is called a confidence game. Being cool, and of very few words. How to be a con man. I'd say this sums up what's happening in our industry fairly well. AS far as the salary question goes- honestly no one can venture answer this especialy now because everything is sort of up in the air and it's hard for people to know. It seems that salaries now are stalled for the last four years, and there is no monthly full time employment that is well paid. Ist better to cobble together work from two or more sources. And by the way- teachers are keeping their cards close to their chest about how much they make too.

[mark_in_saigon]

[generalgiap]

I have to agree with Mark, sick and tired of people asking questions without searching the site and most of time the subject has already been discussed. Also, one needs details, qualifications, detailed work experience, white man or not etc etc. All we know is 4 years experience, cant answer the question.
And yes there are some good jobs out there, the Council, RMIT-know some teachers on 3000 usd and level leaders/coordinators on 4000 usd. Difficult to get but not impossible depending on what was discussed above.

[deadlift]