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deherald



Joined: 25 Nov 2010
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Location: Newport, KY/Cincinnati, OH

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:24 am    Post subject: Your opinion? Reply with quote

It is very far away, and I know there schedule is different from ours but I want to spend an American summer teaching abroad. What would my chances be for Japan? Here are my qualification:

MA-school counselor
BA-English/Education
--experience coaching 9th grade basketball
--4 years classroom teaching experience in KY
--still active in teaching


Do you think if I would pay for my own air fair i would be able to have everything else covered?

any links you can give me?

PM etc if you think you can help

I really want to teach abroad. I am going back to school soon to learn a language once my local college offers it in the evenings.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your chances of teaching for just the summer in Japan are pretty much zero unless you get on with Westgate Corporation (and if they even have openings for that time period, not very likely depending on the months), or unless you are willing to break a contract.

Even for FT jobs that are on typical (year-long) contracts, you will not get rent or utilities paid for in 99% of cases.

If you want to teach abroad that badly, you will have to make the commitment for a whole year. In Japan, you don't have to learn the language to get hired (but obviously it helps for daily survival). Please realize just how crowded the teaching market is in Japan right now!
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bobbysix



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With an MA in counseling and a BA education, you might want to look at the international schools, I often see positions for counselors coming up.
It would require a lot longer commitment wise though (usually 2 years).
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G Cthulhu



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Location: Way, way off course.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Your opinion? Reply with quote

deherald wrote:
I really want to teach abroad. I am going back to school soon to learn a language once my local college offers it in the evenings.


My *opinion* (ie. what you asked for) is that you don't want to teach abroad. You want a novelty themed holiday for 2-3 months. Which is fine, but don't be under any illusions about what you're doing.

Aside from the horror of Westgate which Glenski mentioned, easiest way to do it is to get into something like a university 'summer abroad' from the US side. Most good universities in the US offer that sort of feel good tourist tripe for their students and interested locals.
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deherald



Joined: 25 Nov 2010
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Location: Newport, KY/Cincinnati, OH

PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:44 am    Post subject: Re: Your opinion? Reply with quote

G Cthulhu wrote:
deherald wrote:
I really want to teach abroad. I am going back to school soon to learn a language once my local college offers it in the evenings.


My *opinion* (ie. what you asked for) is that you don't want to teach abroad. You want a novelty themed holiday for 2-3 months. Which is fine, but don't be under any illusions about what you're doing.

Aside from the horror of Westgate which Glenski mentioned, easiest way to do it is to get into something like a university 'summer abroad' from the US side. Most good universities in the US offer that sort of feel good tourist tripe for their students and interested locals.


No illusion just wanting to add teaching abroad to the resume, and a few years ago the guys that couldn't cut it in our public schools would try the abroad approach.

any suggestions on places i could go and give it a whirl? I just want to break even or come close to that!
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mc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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Location: Aichi, Japan

PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:47 am    Post subject: Re: Your opinion? Reply with quote

deherald wrote:

any suggestions on places i could go and give it a whirl? I just want to break even or come close to that!


Glenski already answered this. Pretty much the only way to get a summer (Jun-Aug) teaching gig in Japan is sign a year-long contract and then simply walk away from it when you're ready to go back home. Westgate Corp. offers 3-month contracts, but AFAIK they don't have a summer term (only spring and fall).
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may very well not break even in Japan after only 3 months.

Airfare and rent will be your biggest expenditures. People will not hire you if you tell them in advance that you only plan to work for 3 months, plus you cannot get a visa for that sort of work (except through Westgate).

If you really want to teach abroad, then teach for at least a whole year. Few people are going to see it as worthwhile on a resume if you put only 3 months. Many don't even see a whole year (in Japan anyway) as worth counting.
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spidr245



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about him, but I've found "teaching" in Japan really painful for the first year. It's not really teaching at all. That's why the first year (and for some people, the next few years as well) isn't really worth counting.

If he says he really wants to teach and add to the resume, then an international school is the way to go. Otherwise, just come for a 2-3 vacation and go home.
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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spidr245 wrote:
If he says he really wants to teach and add to the resume, then an international school is the way to go. Otherwise, just come for a 2-3 vacation and go home.


There's a reason I suggested the 'summer abroad' programmes. (Which he/she promptly ignored.)
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rxk22



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spidr245 wrote:
I don't know about him, but I've found "teaching" in Japan really painful for the first year. It's not really teaching at all. That's why the first year (and for some people, the next few years as well) isn't really worth counting.

If he says he really wants to teach and add to the resume, then an international school is the way to go. Otherwise, just come for a 2-3 vacation and go home.


Also really depends on your school. Most of mine, I am happy if my kinds can answer 'what's your name' and a few others.
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Mr. Kalgukshi
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My opinion is this thread needed to be locked after some contentious postings were deleted.

Posting about how easy it is to bait people on this board will absolutely get you banned here.

Baiting other members is not what this board is about. There are boards that welcome and openly recruit such members.

Those sites are where you belong if you like baiting other members, as you will definitely not last long here.
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