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abigolblackman



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:21 pm    Post subject: Wall Street Institute - Shanghai Reply with quote

Does anyone work for WSI in Shanghai? I currently work for WSI in Seoul but I am interested in moving to Shanghai and would like some info.
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Songbird



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Location: State of Chaos, Panic & Disorder...

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, but I'm at WSE Shenzhen. During my training there was a guy who'd spent a year at WSI in Korea and I think he was a bit annoyed he has to go through all the motions of training again. The Encounters are the same across the world, I think the main difference with WSE in China is that there are English Corners (much larger SC's, I get 4-5 a week. They're entirely your own topics and prep). I've been at WSE for just 7 weeks now!
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chryanvii



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you say you have to prepare 4-5 Social Clubs a week? 5 INDIVIDUAL social clubs, or are they repeats? That sounds terrible - do you have any spare time at all?
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Songbird



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, English Corners. Most SC's are prepped, just add your own touches. Still, about 4-5 of those as well a week.
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Blingcosa



Joined: 17 May 2008
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Location: Guangdong

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm full time there. I do 30 hours of classroom teaching:
Most classes are Encounters: topheavy with Survival and Waystage
5-7 CCs
5-7 SCs
2-3 English Corners
Usually have a party once a month
have to develop an Interactive Whiteboard class once a quarter
Training days every quarter as well (theoretically voluntary, but actually not)
You are obliged to do a one hour service hour every day, but I never find this long enough to prepare six hours of classes. This is plenty for the fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants kind of teachers.

A few other heads up:
We will soon have to wear a uniform
Need to formally clock in
They have brought in a stupid 'service credo' which you are expected to memorise and recite (includes 'call the students by name', 'smile' and other such bullshit)
The SPPs are becoming more and more complicated (and time consuming)
WSE is only ever barely staffed, so if someone quits, you will be forced to work overtime until they find a replacement
It is often difficult to get 2 consecutive days off in SH, so you will often have to work split shifts, double half days, etc
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Songbird



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spent a load of my own time in the last month planning all Encounters, now trying to get all CCs done. Then service hours normally should be enough for English Corners and SC's that need to be fixed, amended etc (already on IWB).

True about the training, but it's only for about 2 hours or so. And you get paid/ bonus for it.

Haven't heard about the service credo yet, thopugh we had the international bigwigs in yesterday.

Yes, the upcoming uniform is a sore spot. Sure, a strict dress code, but a uniform will look a bit gumby on FT's!

Overtime is paid- at least in Shenzhen at double time!2 months in I've already been offered overtime several times which certainly sweetens the paypacket!

Generally I don't mind it. I've done the maths and worked out that what I'm doing is on a similar salary to back home, only here it's a far more interesting place to livem the people are great and I'm doing a job that I enjoy. I've been working at universities around China for 6 years now and this is the happiest I've ever been. No longer working with idiots either!
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Scott 1955



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dito

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7969



Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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Location: Coastal Guangdong

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott 1955 wrote:
Any idea what the uniform will look like ? Are they not tying in the company's name with the uniform ? Say a nice pin-striped 3 piece suit, and some Italian leather shoes ?

An orange jumpsuit would be more fitting in my opinion.
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Opiate



Joined: 10 Aug 2011
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Location: Qingdao

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

7969 wrote:
Scott 1955 wrote:
Any idea what the uniform will look like ? Are they not tying in the company's name with the uniform ? Say a nice pin-striped 3 piece suit, and some Italian leather shoes ?

An orange jumpsuit would be more fitting in my opinion.


haha
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Scott 1955



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dito

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chryanvii



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blingcosa wrote:
I'm full time there. I do 30 hours of classroom teaching:
Most classes are Encounters: topheavy with Survival and Waystage
5-7 CCs
5-7 SCs
2-3 English Corners
Usually have a party once a month
have to develop an Interactive Whiteboard class once a quarter
Training days every quarter as well (theoretically voluntary, but actually not)
You are obliged to do a one hour service hour every day, but I never find this long enough to prepare six hours of classes. This is plenty for the fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants kind of teachers.

A few other heads up:
We will soon have to wear a uniform
Need to formally clock in
They have brought in a stupid 'service credo' which you are expected to memorise and recite (includes 'call the students by name', 'smile' and other such bullshit)
The SPPs are becoming more and more complicated (and time consuming)
WSE is only ever barely staffed, so if someone quits, you will be forced to work overtime until they find a replacement
It is often difficult to get 2 consecutive days off in SH, so you will often have to work split shifts, double half days, etc


Gee - I don't mean to be rude. But is this really worth the money? Do you have any kind of life outside the center at all? It sounds like not only do you never get 2 consistent days free, but you are always constantly planning social clubs and other things as well.

At WEB, we had a total of 2 social clubs a week. And the rest of the curriculum was all planned and ready to go.

They sound like absolute slave-drivers.

you would think that in a big city like Shanghai that is full to the brim with foreigners, that they wouldn't have any problem keeping the place staffed. So...it seems pretty evident that they are doing something very wrong.

Uniforms? A credo? They are trying to really test you guys' limits. I say strike.

Just a heads up - I have recently found out that contracts are not barring. you CAN get out of them if you are absolutely miserable. Particularly if your contract says nothing about needing to wear uniforms.
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