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jserio
Joined: 15 Jul 2010 Posts: 61
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:11 pm Post subject: Depression after teaching abroad? |
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Hi Everyone. I have no ESL certificates. I have an MPA. I left a good job in IT because I was not happy with my life. I wanted to be more of a public servant (hence my MPA degree). Unfortunately, public sector jobs in the states were very limited so I decided to give teaching a try. Deep inside, I always wanted to be a teacher.
I spent a year in Georgia. I'll leave the discussion of the actual program to the jobs boards (you can PM me any questions if you wish). I can say that my experience was very enjoyable and better than most. I had a good host family and lived in a city as opposed to a village.
I returned home at the end of June and since then I feel like I have been in a funk that I just cannot shake. I'm staying with family right now, have no desire to find local work. I do wish to get my TESOL so I can go on a new adventure.
But while my body is in America, my mind is thousands of miles away in Georgia. I just can't lose my desire to return. Before you ask, I am trying to, but I don't think it will happen until Jan. School started there on September 15 and since then I have been even more depressed, knowing that I am not there with them.
When I first went to Georgia, I vowed to stay professional and distant from students outside the classroom. But in that country, it is easy to get close to them (hang out after school practicing English, go to their homes for dinner, go to the beach, etc). As a result, I formed strong emotional connections to many of them. I believe this is the root of my depression. Knowing that they are "moving on without me." It's worse that some of them have befriended me on Facebook so it is impossible to "forget" them. I suspect ALL teachers (not just ESL teachers) experience this problem sometime int heir careers.
I guess my question is... are my feelings normal? Is it normal to be depressed and "out of touch" when you leave a school/country? Is it common to become emotionally attached to your students? What are things you do to overcome these feelings?
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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sparks
Joined: 20 Feb 2008 Posts: 632
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Really, If you like Georgia so much, why not go back in January? Lots of people on this forum went somewhere, liked it, stayed for a year or two or ten, moved somewhere else stayed/moved again. It's your life. Maybe you will come to regret your decision but you'll never know if you don't go. |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Ignore. There are always a few people around who take pleasure making EFL out to be -------------------(fill in the blanks with whatever collection of ugly and negative adjectives you wish).
I, too, have been unable to return to the country I am originally from - for the past 14 + years!! I've basically written the idea of ever returning off, in my case, though I realise that's an extreme that not everyone will reach.
My only questions in your case would be - do you miss the people more, or the experience/new lifestyle/etc? The problem is that Georgia for the long-term would be a bit of a dead end financially speaking, though I agree with sparks that you should certainly go back when you can, even if you are there only for another short-term stay.
If it's the lifestyle, teaching, and other aspects that you really liked, why not continue to boost your qualifications and experience and try somewhere a bit more lucrative next round? Maybe you'll want to make a career of EFL. Maybe not - but it probably can't hurt to give it a try. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, your feelings are completely normal. It's called part of reverse culture shock. |
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denise

Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 3419 Location: finally home-ish
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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I agree (as I always do with spiral78!). But it sounds like you, the OP, already know not to be dragged down by the negative elements in the field!
One word of caution, though... if you do go back, keep in mind that things might not be the same. That group of students will have moved on, and while you may still keep in touch with them and socialize with them, if your next batch of students (and colleagues, depending on your relationship with the last batch) don't live up to your first experience, you might be disappointed.
And I agree that your feelings sound normal. January isn't that far away, and I wonder if the nearness of your return is affecting you... like you want to be there now but still have a few months to wait. Hang in there!
And some "planning for the future" advice--by all means, get certified, and if you really do have a passion for teaching, look into MA programs. The more qualified you are, the less likely you are to be stuck in limbo.
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GMark
Joined: 02 Apr 2010 Posts: 46 Location: China
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:58 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Denise (who agrees with spiral78). Be careful about going back, things may be quite different there for you the second time. I suggest getting a TESOL qualification and striking out somewhere new. |
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jserio
Joined: 15 Jul 2010 Posts: 61
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:33 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for all of your replies. I thought about reverse culture shock - and maybe it is - but it seems more extreme than that. Maybe I am just "living in the past" and need to live in the present and look forward. The funny thing is, in Georgia, I did not experience strong culture shock. The only time stage 3 got to me was at the end of my stay (mid-May) when I was just frustrated and probably feeling anxious that I was leaving. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:05 am Post subject: |
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Jserio, reverse culture shock can be extreme, even for some seasoned travelers who think they've prepared for the experience before returning to their homeland. Anyway, setting a plan---big or small---for what you want to do next in life will be a first step towards normalcy. What's yours?
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Reverse culture shock is usually described in four stages:
Stage 1 - Disengagement. This stage begins before you leave your host country. You begin thinking about re-entry and making your preparations for your return home. You also begin to realize that it's time to say good-bye to your friends abroad and to the place you've come to call home. The hustle and bustle of finals, good-bye parties, and packing can intensify your feelings of sadness and frustration. You already miss the friends you've made, and you are reluctant to leave. Or, you may make your last few days fly by so fast that you don't have time to reflect on your emotions and experiences.
Stage 2 - Initial euphoria usually begins shortly before departure, and it is characterized by feelings of excitement and anticipation - even euphoria - about returning home. This is very similar to the initial feelings of fascination and excitement you may have when you first entered your host country. You may be very happy to see your family and friends again, and they are also happy to see you. The length of this stage varies, and often ends with the realization that most people are not as interested in your experiences abroad as you had hoped. They will politely listen to your stories for a while, but you may find that soon they are ready to move on to the next topic of conversation.
This is often one of the transitions to Stage 3, irritability and hostility. You may experience feelings of frustration, anger, alienation, loneliness, disorientation, and helplessness and not understand exactly why. You might quickly become irritated or critical of others and of your country's culture. Depression, feeling like a stranger at home, and the longing to go back abroad are also not uncommon reactions. You may also feel less independent than you were while abroad.
Most people are then able to move onto Stage 4, readjustment and adaptation, which is a gradual readjustment to life at home. Things will start to seem a little more normal again, and you will probably fall back into some old routines, but things won't be exactly the same as how you left them. You have most likely developed new attitudes, beliefs, habits, as well as personal and professional goals, and you will see things differently now. The important thing is to try to incorporate the positive aspects of your international experience while abroad with the positive aspects of your life at home in your native country.
(Source, edited from: http://www.studentsabroad.com/reentrycultureshock.html)
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daveeslcafe888
Joined: 23 Jun 2011 Posts: 11
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:41 am Post subject: |
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Was this program through Footprints?
In my subjective experience, they were very unprofessional.
(i.e. my first interviewer could not understand even basic turns of phrases in English, did not know my school, etc.). Knowing that I was a good candidate for the job, I called the owner and appealed the decision. Within 2 hours of another basic interview, I was offered a job.
While I would like to teach in Georgia, I wonder how much I can really trust Footprints. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Various forms of mental illness are common on returning "back home!" after a longer stint in ther Big Bad World. Not just in EFL. Common to many "expatriates" who try to fit in back where they came from.
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globalcitizen1968
Joined: 03 Oct 2011 Posts: 34
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:22 am Post subject: |
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You'll be fine! It just takes time to get back into the swing of things! Work on getting a masters in teaching and teach in your home country. Probably more money and stability as well. |
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jserio
Joined: 15 Jul 2010 Posts: 61
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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daveeslcafe888 wrote: |
Was this program through Footprints?
In my subjective experience, they were very unprofessional.
While I would like to teach in Georgia, I wonder how much I can really trust Footprints. |
Yes, my recruitment was through Footprints. I was in the 3rd group to go (Sep 1, 2010). It was the first time I've used a recruiter (and my first ESL job) but I thought Footprints was OK. My interview was with some Asian girl who I understood. The questions were pretty basic though. They did have a Ukraine girl working there specifically for the Georgia jobs and she had a bad attitude - she has since been replaced I think.
Your interview was probably with actual Georgians in the TLG office. I hear they are conducting interviews now which are a little more specific. Last year it seemed if you had a heartbeat you could get in. My group (and the previous groups) were filled with 20-year-olds either still in college or fresh out of college looking for a party. There were drunken brawls, fights, prejudice, and all sorts of shenanigans that ashamed me to be associated with them. Some were fired at Christmas.
That said, I only experienced a few problems with the Georgian government but overall the experience was great.
Someone on these forums gave a good overview of Georgia and one thing that resonates with me was "they lie." They will lie to your face to save their own - especially your bosses and teachers. Remember that.
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jserio
Joined: 15 Jul 2010 Posts: 61
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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nomad soul wrote: |
Jserio, reverse culture shock can be extreme, even for some seasoned travelers who think they've prepared for the experience before returning to their homeland. Anyway, setting a plan---big or small---for what you want to do next in life will be a first step towards normalcy. What's yours?
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Reverse culture shock is usually described in four stages: |
I don't really have a plan yet - that is my rut. I thought about getting a TESOL but am just not motivated. I think I am stuck between stages 1 and 3. |
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