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Captain_Fil



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:06 am    Post subject: CIA kills al-Qaeda leader Reply with quote
An American-born al-Qaeda leader, named Anwar al-Aulaqi, was killed in Yemen by a CIA drone...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/anwar-al-aulaqi-us-born-cleric-linked-to-al-qaeda-killed-yemen-says/2011/09/30/gIQAsoWO9K_story.html
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:00 am    Post subject: Re: CIA kills al-Qaeda leader Reply with quote
Captain_Fil wrote:
An American-born al-Qaeda leader, named Anwar al-Aulaqi, was killed in Yemen by a CIA drone...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/anwar-al-aulaqi-us-born-cleric-linked-to-al-qaeda-killed-yemen-says/2011/09/30/gIQAsoWO9K_story.html


Yet another example of the US using illegal, extra-territorial means to violate the sovereignty of a country to commit acts of murder without habeas corpus to the victim.

Aren't US citizens supposed to be entitled to (nay, even have the right to) trial before their peers before the death penalty is imposed by the US government? Isn't execution without trial nothing more than murder?

If they can find him to assassinate him they can certainly find him to arrest him (if the charges are in fact legal and accurate).

Time for the US war criminals to be brought to the Hague for crimes against humanity.

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Ajarn Miguk



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Traitors are often executed and this is particularly true in time of war when the the traitor is giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

This sometimes happens without the benefit of a trial.

Such is war.
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Opiate



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ajarn Miguk wrote:
Traitors are often executed and this is particularly true in time of war when the the traitor is giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

This sometimes happens without the benefit of a trial.

Such is war.


While this is true....what war are we in now? IIRC we have not declared war since WWII.

Not to say I am sad to see this guy eliminated from the earth though. I could not care less.
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Ajarn Miguk



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
http://middleeast.about.com/od/usmideastpolicy/a/bush-war-on-terror-speech.htm
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ajarn Miguk wrote:
Traitors are often executed and this is particularly true in time of war when the the traitor is giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

This sometimes happens without the benefit of a trial.

Such is war.


So congress has declared war on Yemen (Damn, I missed it!).

Or would that be like the Attorney General declaring war on biker gangs (but I don't see assassination squads of FBI agents running around the US killing off all the Hells Angels without the benefit of a trial nor do we see predator drones circling the bikers clubhouses.

Either the law means something or it means nothing. You can claim both.

A US citizen was summarily executed without benefit of due process by US government officials or agents working for the US government. Sounds a lot like murder to me.

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Ajarn Miguk



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
tttompatz wrote:
Ajarn Miguk wrote:
Traitors are often executed and this is particularly true in time of war when the the traitor is giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

This sometimes happens without the benefit of a trial.

Such is war.


So congress has declared war on Yemen (Damn, I missed it!).

Or would that be like the Attorney General declaring war on biker gangs (but I don't see assassination squads of FBI agents running around the US killing off all the Hells Angels without the benefit of a trial nor do we see predator drones circling the bikers clubhouses.

Either the law means something or it means nothing. You can claim both.

A US citizen was summarily executed without benefit of due process by US government officials or agents working for the US government. Sounds a lot like murder to me.

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Your analogies would seem to indicate you are confusing what goes on in law enforcement with what goes on in war.

Having some experience in both areas, I can assure you that while there are similarities there are significant differences.

This case speaks to the latter.
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote