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Is it necessary to get CELTA with 4 yrs experience already?

 
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gloomyGumi



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:59 am    Post subject: Is it necessary to get CELTA with 4 yrs experience already? Reply with quote

I have no certification whatsoever, only a BA English and unrelated Masters and nearly 4 yrs teaching experience. Would a different certification be more appropriate at this stage?
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose it primarily depends what you'd want to do with it.

For DOS and teacher trainer positions, I think a DELTA is kind of the gold standard.

I haven't got one, but know quite a few teachers who do - they say it's helped career-wise and was plenty challenging enough to be useful and interesting, as a CELTA might not at your stage in the game.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where's your experience from? Turkey? Elsewhere?
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gloomyGumi



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

South Korea. and I know Turkey requires some sort of cert, correct?
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coffeespoonman



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You want DELTA at this stage. In a similar position to you (less experience, but related M.A.), the director of ITI refused to even let me consider a CELTA, saying that it would be a waste of my time.

Did he want more money from me? Maybe. Was he right? Yes, he was. It was a lot of work, but it has benefitted me a thousandfold in my career.
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gloomyGumi



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what kind of jobs can i get in Turkey WITHOUT a celta/delta?
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coffeespoonman



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most any (with a few upper end exceptions) because of your degrees + experience. But you'll likely be paid more if you get a DELTA, and you'll be eligible for promotions, etc, if that's your thing.

More importantly, you'll learn so much about teaching EFL/ESL. Now, I'm not saying anything about your knowledge or teaching style - you may be a great teacher. It's just that, even though I already was a good teacher before I did the DELTA (I think), after doing the DELTA, my own personal enjoyment and satisfaction increased significantly. Everything started fitting together much more easily in the classroom and while prepping. I learned about a whole bunch of things I should be taking into account and never was, and I feel much better about myself as a teacher now.

For people who are committed to a lifetime of teaching, I really can't recommend the DELTA enough. For people who aren't or aren't sure yet, the DELTA represents a huge time commitment and a lot of effort, and I wouldn't recommend it if you're not 100% into it.
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