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ladysss
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 Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:50 am Post subject: What are usual conditions for teachers in Russia? |
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| I`m running a language school in the North-West of Russia, Vologda. I believe the best way to learn a language - to learn it with a native speaker who has special education. I lack information about main terms & conditions. What is the average salary? benefits? Who is to get all the papers ready? How long can the contract last? Who choose the sduty program? Are there any problems with discipline? I mean missing classes or other of the kind... What shall I start from? |
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ancient_dweller
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| you should pay them a lot - probably minimum 200,000r a month. also, accommodation (2 bed flat as standard - sometime 3), private health insurance on top. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Plus a Lexus. All the best schools offer that these days to sweeten the pot. 
Seriously, are you asking posters here on how you should set up and run your school? I'm sure many could help out, but we would need to discuss consultation fees first. |
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coledavis
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:56 am Post subject: Re: What are usual conditions for teachers in Russia? |
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| I`m running a language school in the North-West of Russia, Vologda. I believe the best way to learn a language - to learn it with a native speaker who has special education. I lack information about main terms & conditions. What is the average salary? benefits? Who is to get all the papers ready? How long can the contract last? Who choose the sduty program? Are there any problems with discipline? I mean missing classes or other of the kind... What shall I start from? |
I am sorry that my colleagues have been so ungracious. I do not necessarily agree that native speakers are the best for teaching English - the ability to teach well is the most important factor, whether by a Russian or a native speaker. The standard is for the school to pay a one room flat for the teacher (shared accommodation only in Moscow, I think); it is also helpful if you pay for electricity and water, also a good internet connection. On top of that, you would either pay a flat rate, e.g. the equivalent of a 1000 dollars a month for up to 25 teaching hours, alternatively a minimum salary of say 18,000 roubles a month with additional pro rata payments for teaching above 17 teaching hours per week (teaching hours being 40 minutes).
Contracts should be for an academic year, e.g. September to June or July, renewable. A three month probation period would be wise.
The school is responsible for arranging the visa invitation and should pay for the visa applicaition. You must make your own decisions about whether or not to pay for the aeroplane flight.
You should create the timetable, although you should try to avoid split shifts (morning and evening), as teachers really do not like this, and you should try to give at least two days off per week, or compensate with additional time off where possible.
Discipline: this depends on the individual teacher. I would emphasise, however, that just being a native speaker is not enough. If they can't teach, the novelty will wear off very quickly. Be organised and careful about how you recruit. I hope this helps. |
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ladysss
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for the answers - all of you!
To ancient_dweller & Sashadroogie: you forget about a pesonal chamberman & massage every evening:). Teachers get tired & the work is so nervous!
Coledavis, I wrote "a native speaker with special education". Of course only being native doesn`t mean the quality of knowledge.
I read some topics at the forum, analised the answers & came to a decision.
Coledavis, a special THANK you for you!
We already have Hilberto from Spain, Natalie from Germany... |
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coledavis
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:03 am Post subject: |
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| The usual qualifications are a degree followed by CELTA or the Trinity certificate. Even these are no guarantee of quality; the responsibility for recruitment still rests with the employer. Good luck with things. By the way, 'analysed' has a 'y' in it; the word you used has a very different meaning in some quarters. |
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Sashadroogie
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| A massage is a great idea! Especially when working in schools which are woefully managed : ( |
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ladysss
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| Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry - misprint:) |
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ladysss
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| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:45 am Post subject: |
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| Is there any special diploma for those who teach babies? or young children under 5? |
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ladysss
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Can it be one teacher for young children & adults?
How can I check the teacher`s knowledge? Any special tests?
Is it possible to invite a teacher on special conditions like cooperation? I mean: can the teacher be a manager (owner 40% - no money from him)& teacher (no salary, only 40% of the income)?
Is it a possible variant that the teacher takes part in creating new programs (audibles, musical parts, theatre etc)? |
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spiral78
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| Is there any special diploma for those who teach babies? or young children under 5? |
They're typically called English speaking nannies or au pairs - and you won't find many of them here on Dave's. You definitely wont' be able to afford a certified early childhood educator - they are expensive, and I see from above that you are hoping not to pay a teacher at all.....
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s it possible to invite a teacher on special conditions like cooperation? I mean: can the teacher be a manager (owner 40% - no money from him)& teacher (no salary, only 40% of the income)? |
It is very very unlikely that anyone will be willing to put up the expense of flying out, renting a place, and other start up costs without a regular salary. This is the kind of thing one might do if he/she already lives in the area and is just looking for a bit of extra income or something. Also, you have to ask yourself with this arrangement, why the teacher would need management at all - he or she could market him/her self directly to the students and make 100% of the fees.
Yes, teachers very often create new programmes. This is the most feasible part of your possible plans above. |
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ladysss
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| They're typically called English speaking nannies or au pairs - and you won't find many of them here on Dave's. You definitely wont' be able to afford a certified early childhood educator - they are expensive, and I see from above that you are hoping not to pay a teacher at all..... |
We have good salaries for teachers. Thank you for information. The school is not for poor people, the service is asked.
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| It is very very unlikely that anyone will be willing to put up the expense of flying out, renting a place, and other start up costs without a regular salary. This is the kind of thing one might do if he/she already lives in the area and is just looking for a bit of extra income or something. Also, you have to ask yourself with this arrangement, why the teacher would need management at all - he or she could market him/her self directly to the students and make 100% of the fees. |
I just read several discussions here at Daves about running own schools. Is it bad to have an investor? Where can you find better conditions than 40/60? & not from the very start, with no expences, with ready clients? I have several businesses of different kind on such conditions. & why not ask? Does it matter if the manager is Russian or English?
Anyway I manage from the start, get everything go well, then a manager starts working. A private teacher is not so highly-paid as a manager with teaching experience.
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| Yes, teachers very often create new programmes. This is the most feasible part of your possible plans above. |
Thank you for the answer. I myself have 4 programs & need a native speaker to comlete audibles. |
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spiral78
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I just read several discussions here at Daves about running own schools. Is it bad to have an investor? Where can you find better conditions than 40/60? & not from the very start, with no expences, with ready clients? I have several businesses of different kind on such conditions. & why not ask? Does it matter if the manager is Russian or English?
Anyway I manage from the start, get everything go well, then a manager starts working. A private teacher is not so highly-paid as a manager with teaching experience. |
Of course you can ask! I am just saying that it is unlikely you will find someone from abroad who will be willing to relocate to a new area without the security of a salary. Those of us who run our own schools or are partners in them are normally in places where we are already established and the business climate and opportunities are familiar to us. Not many people will take a chance on an unknown situation without the security of an assured salary. However, maybe you will find someone who is willing to move to a town in Russia sight-unseen, to work as a business partner with someone he/she's never met.
It makes no difference if a manager is Russian or English - the question is what the manager is offering to a partner. If there is some value on the management side, in terms of having established clients for example, then that is certainly something to offer to a possible partner.
Certified early childhood educators are normally paid salaries similar to certified classroom teachers in the West, so you are probably looking at something around 35 - 45,000 euro/year gross. That's why I assumed you are probably looking more for something on the level of an English speaking au pair or nanny, whom I think usually make less than this. |
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spiral78
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Sorry, but it's not clear what you need a native speaker to do here. Typos maybe obscuring meaning in this case. |
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ladysss
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Thank you for the answer! You must excuse my Russian English:)) I am not good at it(( I am Russian & I was taught by Russian & they had been taught by Russian:))
As for programs I need a person to make a new program together.
As for schools I know several of the kind - good schools. English & Russian teachers, English manager. Russian investor (own building, educational license? registration for teachers etc) |
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