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maggietulliver



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:45 pm    Post subject: Advice Needed Reply with quote

Hey All,

I know this question has perhaps been asked to death, but I think everyone's circumstances and qualifications are different...

I am an Australian woman with a BA, Grad Dip TESOL and Masters in Education (TESOL). I would like to find a position in Japan, preferably Osaka, within the next year.

Are there any specific colleges/institutions which offer positions that may be suitable for me, keeping in mind my qualifications? I have had also had approx. 5 years teaching experience here in Australia.

I am sorry if this question has been asked before, but I would be greatly appreciative for any feedback.

Kindest thanks,
MT.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does that MA come with any publications? Have you actually worked in Japan or at any college anywhere else? How much Japanese can you speak/read/write? Those are all part of the qualifications to landing a job at a Japanese university. See the FAQ stickies and links therein for a boatload more.

Then look at the JRECIN web site http://jrecin.jst.go.jp/seek/SeekTop?ln=1 for job ads for universities, and you will be able to see what unis are asking for. Read the Japanese ads if you can for a greater number of opportunities. Also check out the JACET site http://www.jacet.org/kobo/index.html for some ads and the JALT page for jobs: http://jalt-publications.org/tlt/departments/job-info-centre

This is October, and a lot of ads are coming out now for April start dates (beginning of the academic year here, in case you didn't know). A physical presence in Japan helps immensely.
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maggietulliver



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much for your informative reply.

The MA does not come with any publications, no. It was a coursework degree.
I have not worked in Japan either - though I have worked in colleges etc. here in Australia.
I can not speak Japanese - I am learning at the moment.

I will check out those links you have kindly provided.



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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coursework degree? I'm not familiar with that. Basically, I wanted to know if you have published anything in research journals.
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess by 'coursework degree' MT means a taught degree (=containing little "real", "publishable" new research).
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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
Does that MA come with any publications?

Those are all part of the qualifications to landing a job at a Japanese university.



Not true IMO. Becoming more common, just as requiring a PhD is becoming more common, but plenty of junior colleges out there and universities that *don't* require publications.
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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
Coursework degree? I'm not familiar with that. Basically, I wanted to know if you have published anything in research journals.


Coursework degree means no thesis. Like 99% of US MBA degrees. ie. Not an academic degree.

If you really don't know what that means then you've been out of the English speaking world for too long.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G Cthulhu wrote:
Glenski wrote:
Does that MA come with any publications?

Those are all part of the qualifications to landing a job at a Japanese university.



Not true IMO. Becoming more common, just as requiring a PhD is becoming more common, but plenty of junior colleges out there and universities that *don't* require publications.
Perhaps, but more and more junior colleges are requiring even part-timers to have master's degrees and publications. I wouldn't say that many universities don't require publications, either. Those are in a very limited minority. Those that don't require pubs are usually the type one worth avoiding.

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Coursework degree means no thesis. Like 99% of US MBA degrees. ie. Not an academic degree.

If you really don't know what that means then you've been out of the English speaking world for too long.
Why is it every time you respond to a post of mine, you lay on the insults? There is no need for that. I have a degree in the sciences, not education, as you should know by now, and a "coursework degree" is not a common term there. As for maggie, I would strongly suggest that she not mention her lack of a thesis when applying to Japanese unis if it's at all possible. (I haven't seen a heckuva lot of resumes mentioning a thesis anyway, but just a heads up for someone who already lacks other publications.)
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uh huh



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:35 pm    Post subject: Advice needed Reply with quote

For what it's worth, I earned my MA TESOL in the US three years ago, and I had no idea what a coursework degree was. I wrote a thesis, but we also had a portfolio option at my university.
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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
G Cthulhu wrote:
Coursework degree means no thesis. Like 99% of US MBA degrees. ie. Not an academic degree.

If you really don't know what that means then you've been out of the English speaking world for too long.

Why is it every time you respond to a post of mine, you lay on the insults? There is no need for that. I have a degree in the sciences, not education, as you should know by now, and a "coursework degree" is not a common term there.


How about you stop taking *everything* as an insult? How about you stop being so mind numbingly pedantic with every poster and playing the dumb card every so often in "not understanding"? How about you stop answering *every* poster who asks where they should look for a job with "you're a newbie and should expect newbies jobs" even when they're clearly qualified for other things?! Why, after 10+ years, do you *still* trot out the cliches about the JET programme as if they were gospel truth, even when there has been a chorus of people over the years saying you were mistaken in some way in almost every area?!

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if even half the things you claim to not understand in conversations are true then *you no longer understand common English & need to get out of Japan*. That's not intended to be insulting: it's an observational opinion. I really do think you're out of touch, and as time moves forward your "advice" is actually becoming counter-productive to other people IMO. I'm sure it's well intentioned, but (at least in the areas I know) it's often simply no longer helpful. Obviously, YMMV.


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As for maggie, I would strongly suggest that she not mention her lack of a thesis when applying to Japanese unis if it's at all possible. (I haven't seen a heckuva lot of resumes mentioning a thesis anyway, but just a heads up for someone who already lacks other publications.)


Again, not an insult, but *why* would you say that to anyone?! First you say you (the only American or Canadiac I've ever run into that didn't know or wasn't able to understand the term, btw) had no idea what her degree was, but now, an instant later, you're happy to offer professional advice about it, all while admitting that you've never seen it be a factor! And yet you wonder why some people accuse you of being pedantic or over bearing and paternalistic in the way you answer people?!

And that's it, I'm done with this thread. It's off topic enough already.
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Shimokitazawa



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maggietulliver wrote:
Thank you very much for your informative reply.

The MA does not come with any publications, no. It was a coursework degree.
I have not worked in Japan either - though I have worked in colleges etc. here in Australia.
I can not speak Japanese - I am learning at the moment.

I will check out those links you have kindly provided.

Smile


OP, that's correct. This is a common in Australia where Master's degrees do not require any form of original research or a thesis / dissertation component.

Thus, they are often referred to by non-Australians (Americans?) as "course-work degrees".

Australian universities have taken a fair amount of criticism since the turn of the century over their master degree programs and, if I say so myself, rightly so.

But you've asked a good question.
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Mr_Monkey



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the UK, non-dissertation master's degree courses are referred to as a Postgraduate Diploma. I think they're a little different from the Australian non-dissertation masters in that the extra credits a successful thesis confers are instead handled via assignments.
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