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VikingElvis
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 Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:14 pm Post subject: Z Visa Medical Exam: |
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I am trying to get my medical exam done and all doctors I speak to seem to be unable to fill out the box that talks about testing for Cholera, Yellow Fever, Plauge, Leprosy and Psychosis (they're able to do the TB, AIDS and VD tests...)
For those of you who had your medical exam and got your visa, did they do bloodwork for all this stuff? Or did they just check for physical symptoms? |
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big_big_bang_theory_fan
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:14 am Post subject: |
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| You are tested only for HIV, TB, Viral Hepatitis, and Syphilis. Everything else is history-based (e.g., questions regarding previous diagnosis of the other diseases). Simply respond "no" - assuming you never had them. |
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Miles Smiles
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:08 am Post subject: |
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The tests that I was required to take in the U.S. included the communicable diseases tests plus a serodiagnosis which is basically a liver function test that is considered a routine test that indicates cholesterol levels as well as the presence (or absence) of a certain protein if one has recently experienced a heart attack. It will also indicate chronic alcoholism, according to my doctor. I took these tests last year prior to my return to China last year. YMMV
The following Washington, DC Chinese Consulate website provides the forms with the effective date:
http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/ywzn/lsyw/vpna/rap/t84254.htm
Others should consult the consulate within his country's jurisdiction. |
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steve b
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| If you have a family doctor he should know your history and should simply be able to mark "no" or "not indicated" for illnesses and tests respectively. The only value I can see to the pre-arrival medical would be to someone who is in fact suffering from something dire unknowingly because they give you a complete going over when you arrive anyway. |
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kimo50
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:45 am Post subject: Med Exam |
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I completed the medical exam in Manila prior to visa application. Its required at the PRC Embassy in the Philippines. Exam took about two hours and another two hours to get the final report. Was fairly comprehensive as far as these visa exams go - ECG, eye test, dental exam, doctor's exam, blood work, urine and fecal analysis as well as a short IQ test.
Employer said this exam would be sufficient and would not need a new exam upon arrival. |
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steve b
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Unusual I believe, but then presumably it cost you money and not the school! |
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kimo50
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:32 pm Post subject: Not unusual.... |
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| The medical exam followed the requirements to a "T" listed on the Chinese medical form (except for the IQ part.) |
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steve b
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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| If you got it for free then fine, but if you paid then you saved the school money - that's all I am saying. |
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kimo50
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:47 pm Post subject: Medical Exam |
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Hi Steve -
Not sure I understand your point?
Doesn't matter much who pays for it.... The Embassy wont consider the visa application unless you have the exam. So if you want to get into China with a Z visa gotta have the exam before application. Whoever pays for it is another issue - up to your contract with the employer. |
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steve b
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Ah the point was that I paid my family doctor �20 to complete the form and that was ample to get me a visa. The school then paid for the full monty when I got here.
I know of people who paid a fortune for the complete medical only to find the school put them through another on arrival. |
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kimo50
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| My exam was equivalent of $50. I don.t need to go through it again in China. |
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steve b
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Lucky you. |
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choudoufu
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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from my physical exam record:
height, weight, BP, color, vision: real exam/test results entered
development, skin, lungs, tonsils, etc.: "normal"
(.......strange......tonsils removed when i was 8...)
x-ray, ecg: "normal"
HIV, syph: "HIV negative" (blood test required)
cholera and others: "none present" (no blood work done)
suggestion: "healthy" |
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Miles Smiles
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| steve b wrote: |
| If you have a family doctor he should know your history and should simply be able to mark "no" or "not indicated" for illnesses and tests respectively. The only value I can see to the pre-arrival medical would be to someone who is in fact suffering from something dire unknowingly because they give you a complete going over when you arrive anyway. |
Uh, well, if you contracted AIDS, herpes, and hepatitis between your presumably frequent visits to your physician, how would he know unless he performed the required tests?
My doctor refused to sign the form unless ALL of the the tests were performed, citing ethics. I see my doctor every 6 months for liver function tests because I take a cholesterol drug. The doctor knows my history. My insurance pays for a physical every year (of which I take advantage). I don't take an annual AIDS/HIV test because I am not in an at-risk group. When I come to China, I take the battery of communicable disease tests despite the fact that I have been in a heterosexual, monogamous, stable, and faithful relationship for over twenty years.
I can see my doctor's point of view regarding ethics. I would have a lot of doubts about any physician who signs off on a required battery of tests but does not actually perform the tests.
And yes, most people are subjected to the physical again when they arrive in China largely to screen out those who DON'T take the tests and become a burden to the health system.
I know a young guy whose father was a CHIROPRACTOR who filled out and signed off on the form. He submitted the form to his recruiter (not to the consulate. The consulate did not require the form. The school required it). He arrived in China and tested positive for hepatitis B and C three times.
Ooops.
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steve b
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| Writing "not indicated" is hardly unethical. |
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