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bluetortilla
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Location: Henan
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 Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:53 am Post subject: Re: Z Visa Process |
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| askiptochina wrote: |
I would rather deal with the issues, especially in China, in person. If you sign a contract blindly not knowing where you will live, who you will work for, and where you will work, you only have yourself to blame when things go bad. |
How about first-timers? Are uni's reliable? If not, then who is??
I still haven't gotten a start date, but the process has only been a few days. |
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dean_a_jones
Joined: 03 Jul 2009
Posts: 1151
Location: Wuhan, China
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| Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:25 am Post subject: Re: Z Visa Process |
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| bluetortilla wrote: |
| askiptochina wrote: |
I would rather deal with the issues, especially in China, in person. If you sign a contract blindly not knowing where you will live, who you will work for, and where you will work, you only have yourself to blame when things go bad. |
How about first-timers? Are uni's reliable? If not, then who is??
I still haven't gotten a start date, but the process has only been a few days. |
First, I think the advice is really for people in country who can look around. Arriving on the wrong visa means either having plenty of money to burn, or you might face problems with your potential employer who wanted you over on the L or F visa.
You are going about this the wrong way. You are thinking that some group (universities, something else) is 'reliable' as a whole. That is simply not the case. I just stuck this somewhere else, but I think the same advice counts here:
In the end, to improve your chances of not getting screwed over (especially by your first job) you need to become something of a China expert when it comes to adverts, online chats, Chinglish emails, contracts and so on. You need to know how to spot the danger signs, what to ask about, what is 'the norm' for your city/province and FTs in general and more. In reality what this takes is months of reading as much info as possible, getting people's stories, getting to know what contracts look like, digging around for local information etc.
What will definitely help is if you can try to narrow down where you would like to go, as then you can search in a more targeted way.
Some chains are good, some are bad. Some private schools are good, some are bad. Same for everything else available. What is most difficult is figuring out from abroad which are the better ones to work at. Once you are here, as suggested, it gets easier as you can make visits, sniff around, speak to people in person. But when coming over for the first time, you need to get the magnifying glass out and go over everything with a fine-toothed comb. But in order to do this well, you have to know what it is you are actually looking for, both good and bad. That simply takes a lot of reading and an ample dose of critical thinking. |
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