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seklarwia



Joined: 20 Jan 2009
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Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano

PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:34 pm    Post subject: For an international bank transfer Reply with quote

I need to send some money to somebody in the UK asap. Normally I'd just transfer from my UK account but my card reader seems to have suffered in the wonderful Japanese humidity and has died since the last time I used it. Getting a new one quickly is not an option.

I want to go into JP this afternoon as I've heard it can take upto 5 days for international transfers to clear. But that does mean I need to obtain all the required info from the receiver before then.

For any of you who has done a transfer to a UK bank account before: I have their AC no. and 6 digit sort code already, so what are the names of any other codes or info will I need from the receiving bank to do the transfer?
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Mr_Monkey



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll need a SWIFT or IBANN code for the branch you wish to send the money to.
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot. I never made it today; was having fun with my deliquents after classes and missed the early train.

I have those but I just got a message from somebody saying that they needed some other bits of info. So I'm going to collect those things tonight. Perhaps it is just used to double check that the reciver is correct and isn't actually essential, but I'd rather have the info and not need it than have a wasted trip.
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Inflames



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the link from JP Bank:
http://www.jp-bank.japanpost.jp/kojin/tukau/kaigai/sokin/kj_tk_kg_sk_uk.html

One important thing seems to be this:
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銀行口座あて送金の場合は、受取銀行の銀行コード(Sort Code(6桁)またはBIC別名SWIFTコード)、銀行名および銀行住所、または受取銀行の銀行名、支店名および都市名をご記入ください。


Besides the sort code it says you need the bank name and either the address or the branch name and the name of the city it's located in.
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cat mother



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Each bank has its own SWIFT code, it doesn't change from one branch to another. IBAN is nothing more but an account number written in a standard way.

You will need:
- SWIFT
- bank name (this is important, your Japanese bank may have a computerized list of bank names sorted according to their SWIFTs and if the bank name you give them differs from what's on the list, your Japanese bankers may even refuse to perform the transaction. So make sure you have the official business name of the bank you're sending money to)
- account number in the IBAN form (or account number + sorting number separately)
- branch number
- branch address
- name of the account holder
- address of the account holder

Bring your gaijin card with you, your passbook and your bank card (that last one - just in case).
Some banks may require you to fill out two sets of paperwork for one transfer - one set in English and one in Japanese, and the Japanese papers will need to be hanko'd, so bring your stamp as well.
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inflames wrote:
Here's the link from JP Bank:
http://www.jp-bank.japanpost.jp/kojin/tukau/kaigai/sokin/kj_tk_kg_sk_uk.html

One important thing seems to be this:
Quote:
銀行口座あて送金の場合は、受取銀行の銀行コード(Sort Code(6桁)またはBIC別名SWIFTコード)、銀行名および銀行住所、または受取銀行の銀行名、支店名および都市名をご記入ください。


Besides the sort code it says you need the bank name and either the address or the branch name and the name of the city it's located in.

Thanks. I'm so printing out that page just in case the server tries to give me hell about using a sort code rather than a bank and branch number. When I spoke to the UK bank in question this evening they seemed most confused by this request stating that sort code is used even abroad.

My receiver very kindly sent me a copy of their bank statement (ahh... can see how electronic bank statements improve personal security Laughing ) which seems to have everything I need.

cat mother wrote:
Bring your gaijin card with you, your passbook and your bank card (that last one - just in case).
Some banks may require you to fill out two sets of paperwork for one transfer - one set in English and one in Japanese, and the Japanese papers will need to be hanko'd, so bring your stamp as well.

Looks like I'm set:
- I always have my ARC, passbook and card.
- Don't have an issue with double paperwork if it will get the job done.
- Made sure never to hanko anything in Japan just in case I ever needed to do something unexpectedly and didn't have or lost the thing when it was needed... although this might have back fired a little since I recently damaged my right wrist (again! A nice reoccuring thing since I've busted it 3 times over the years) and although I convinced the doctor to allow me to have removable splints instead of a cast, I doubt I will be able to make a signature match the one in my passbook... oh well Rolling Eyes
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Algo5



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this the best way to transfer money from Japan to the UK (in terms of getting the best rate/lowest fess)?

I've been told about these services:

www.golloyds.com (offered by Lloyds Bank)

and

www.remit.co.jp (SBI Remit, apparently they're affiliated with the Japan Post Group, which is where I have my bank account).

but I don't know if either of them are any good?
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In comparison to GoLloyds, doing a transfer from the PO is cheaper by about �10-�15.

But if you intend to be making transfer regularly, the additional cost of GoLloyds is probably worth it for the convenience of being able to do it via an ATM - only main POs can do internationally transfers, so unless you work eikaiwa hours it might be pretty annoying trying to make banking hours at your main PO (not to mention it took the best part of an hour simply to complete the transfer with all the sitting around and waiting whilst people fussed over the paperwork).
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rich45



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Seven Bank is the easiest. I opened an account with them recently and just completed my first transfer back home. The catch is somebody at the other end needs to collect the money and subsequently deposit it into your account, but my mother is more than willing to do that every couple of months.

They charged 1500 yen for a transfer of less than 50,000, and I believe 3000 yen for a transfer above 50,000. I just liked how easy it was to do at a 7/11 ATM with the instructions in English. Took me about 10 seconds to send the money.
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rich45 wrote:
The catch is somebody at the other end needs to collect the money and subsequently deposit it into your account, but my mother is more than willing to do that every couple of months.

Collect the money from where?
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rich45



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seklarwia wrote:
rich45 wrote:
The catch is somebody at the other end needs to collect the money and subsequently deposit it into your account, but my mother is more than willing to do that every couple of months.

Collect the money from where?

Some place affiliated with Western Union. There is a search function on the Western Union website to find the nearest place. In my medium size hometown, there were lots of places in the town centre alone, and I think my Mum went to a branch of Thomson's...right next to HSBC, so very easy to transfer the cash into my account immediately after collection.
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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rich45 wrote:
Some place affiliated with Western Union. There is a search function on the Western Union website to find the nearest place.


Western Union, huh? So.... what's theexchange rate they're using on you?
Laughing

3000 yen at the front end, and a 3-6 point killing on the back end, I betting.
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rich45



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G Cthulhu wrote:
rich45 wrote:
Some place affiliated with Western Union. There is a search function on the Western Union website to find the nearest place.


Western Union, huh? So.... what's theexchange rate they're using on you?
Laughing

3000 yen at the front end, and a 3-6 point killing on the back end, I betting.

Were you drunk when you wrote that? I hope so...

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I think Seven Bank is the easiest.
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoLloyds is just as easy- more so if you have an account with English online banking, like Shinsei. I transfer the money to Lloyds from my living room and it ends up in my account in NZ the next day.

It's good to hear there's another option, but needing someone to transfer money at the other end would be a hassle for me.
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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rich45 wrote:
G Cthulhu wrote:
rich45 wrote:
Some place affiliated with Western Union. There is a search function on the Western Union website to find the nearest place.


Western Union, huh? So.... what's theexchange rate they're using on you?
Laughing

3000 yen at the front end, and a 3-6 point killing on the back end, I betting.

Were you drunk when you wrote that? I hope so...

Quote:
I think Seven Bank is the easiest.



Sorry if you don't like people pointing out the negatives. It's not the easiest: having to have someone mess around finding a WU office to get the money is not "easy". Even Gollyods is cheaper and faster and can be done online/ATM. xe.com is easier and a better rate still, albeit two extra steps which are annoying for some people.

But hey, good luck with giving away 3-5% of your money if you want to. It is, after all, your money. Smile
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