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Imdramayu



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:41 am    Post subject: Books about Gulf language research Reply with quote

Susie,

Check out this nice book "Language teacher research in the Middle East":

http://www.tesol.org/s_tesol/zs_sec_document.asp?CID=287&DID=8814

Tell me what you think. I'm trying to find a way to buy it without having to order it from the US and paying outlandish postage.

IM
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Badar Bin Bada Boom



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
Traffic between Dubai and AD is pretty bad - downright dangerous. Depending on time of day it is probably 1.5-2 hours. Not something I would like to do on a regular basis. Find a job in the city that you will be studying in... Cool

VS


Just drove it. With the new four-lane expressway, it's a pretty sanguine drive.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear B4,

Sanguine, you say? That's bloody scary. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Regards,
John
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

B4... it's been a 4 lane forever, hasn't it? Or do you mean an 8 lane all the way? I wouldn't base much advice on one trip. Timing may be everything... was it rush hour? And all one needs is a tiny fender bender and gridlock is immediate.

Would you like to do it twice a day? With the way the local drive those 4 WD tanks they like... Shocked

VS
(Can a drive be "sanguine"? Wouldn't it have to be you? Not sure how it fits here... Laughing)
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Badar Bin Bada Boom



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Four lanes on each side. It's a totally different road once I got south of the old Hard Rock Cafe area. I drove out of the Dubai airport at 7:40 am on Wednesday Nov 1 and traffic was light in the city In fact, traffic didn't pick up until I got onto the highway. Slightly congested but the world was sanguine. I don't see why, if you can have a cheerful drive, you can't have a sanguine drive. Occasional thinking outside of the box is permitted for people who can write.

No, I wouldn't ever do it twice a day. My post was not to argue with you about commutes. It was simply to inform of a new road since I'd last driven the DXB-AD route--probably ten years ago.
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It's Scary!



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It was simply to inform of a new road since I'd last driven the DXB-AD route--probably ten years ago.


Yeah, and all of those speed bumps are gone! Just avoid the record-setting pileups at Ghantoot when the fog rolls inland and the nationals roll into one another at 160+ kph!Laughing

It's quite a sight!
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Vancouver Vic



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry but why would anyone want to study in Dubai if they don't have to? Education is second rate unless you go to American University of Dubai or Sharjah where standards have been maintained at a western level. All the other universities that have sprung up all over the place have succumbed to the pressure of money money money.
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Badar Bin Bada Boom



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Certainly that Woolongong appeared to be a diploma mill according to an insider I knew there a few years ago. I am not so sure of the AUD reputation. Last I knew, they hired mostly subpar part-timers. American in name only, in other words.

Dubai has a certain dazzling reputation around the world now, thanks to advertising dollars spent at CNN and BBC making Dubai and Abu Dhabi look like the cultural and technical cutting-edge centers of the world.

Chinese students (and their moneyed parents) don't buy it. There's only one place nowadays they consider number one for higher education: the United States. For the past few years a new brand name has supplanted Armani, Gucci or BMW: Harvard. (And so we see a massive industry of fake high-school credentials and admission essays written by someone else). If they can't get into Harvard, anywhere in the Boston area will do. Since it's boorish in China to say "I went to Harvard," everybody and their uncle says "I went to college in Boston."

Where seldom is heard "NYU Abu Dhabi."
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Vancouver Vic



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes have heard a few bad things about Wollongong and their standards not up to scratch - hence the reason they put on their diplomas etc University of Wollongong - DUBAI. There's the catch. Heard of someone who got a job at AUS after having been teaching at HCT Sharjah and started passing all the students in his class. He was promptly called in to his head and asked what the story was. How can you pass all these students? Poor thing he was used to HCT standards.
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volgaman



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
B4... it's been a 4 lane forever, hasn't it? Or do you mean an 8 lane all the way? I wouldn't base much advice on one trip. Timing may be everything... was it rush hour? And all one needs is a tiny fender bender and gridlock is immediate.

Would you like to do it twice a day? With the way the local drive those 4 WD tanks they like... Shocked

VS
(Can a drive be "sanguine"? Wouldn't it have to be you? Not sure how it fits here... Laughing)


I commute from Abu Dhabi to Dubai every day. Takes 65-70 mins to get from home downtown to Dubai Media City in my little Yaris. Probably takes nearer 90 mins for the commuters coming in the opposite direction, as housing is much cheaper in Dubai these days, but most of the jobs are in AUH.

It's no more stressful than any other stretch of road really, and a commute is a nice way to separate work & home and get the audiobooks 'read'. Just a very boring stretch of landscape.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugh... one of the best reasons to get into education in the Gulf was that I didn't have long commutes. If I would have had to spend two+ hours per day in their awful traffic, I would have been gone before the first month was done. Laughing

VS
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Dominic-Pax



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dedicated wrote:
Hello Susie,

Have you actually applied for the EdD course? For the part-time course, the fees are an outrageous 6,600 GB pounds per year for 4 years.(ie. 26,400 pounds)even if you are a UK citizen. This must be the most expensive UK-based course. The course is a minimum of 4 years, up to 6 years (but you pay more if over the 4 years).

In the first 2 years, you have to complete 5 modules, then the remaining two years are the thesis. You will get up to 7 intensive weekend periods of study in Dubai in the first two years, when somebody flies out to teach from Exeter (or from within the UAE, from HCT !!). You have to pay hotel costs. That's it. After that, you have to buy your own books as the "library" in Dubai is shockingly poor.

PM me for further details, but I would stay well away.


This is a normal price for part-time doctoral studies in the UK.
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Dedicated



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dominic-Pax,

I beg to differ. For a UK/EU citizen, a part-time PhD or EdD will cost you about 2,283 GB pounds, even at Cambridge.

See :http://www.admin.cam.ac.uk/offices/gradstud/fees/costs
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Dominic-Pax



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dedicated wrote:
Dominic-Pax,

I beg to differ. For a UK/EU citizen, a part-time PhD or EdD will cost you about 2,283 GB pounds, even at Cambridge.

See :http://www.admin.cam.ac.uk/offices/gradstud/fees/costs


Only if you qualify for home fees. For people paying international fees, 6,000+/- pounds is very normal. I know because I am currently doing a doctorate with a very prestigious university in the UK. I pay a little over 6,000 pounds a year. From an American perspective, that is still a very good deal for a doctorates. We do not get subsidized higher education like the British.
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Iamherebecause



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UK fees are variable, and they can be fairly unsympathetic in their interpretation of who is a Home student. Basically if you're British and live outside the UK you will count as an overseas student, fees around �11k per year even when you return there to do the PhD. But if you're an EU citizen they don't always check where you've been living so a French national who'd worked in the UAE could pay about �4k. For part-time (or distance) courses it can be less but they often expect a shared supervision element in the place where you are based.

At those fee rates I won't be able to afford a PhD before I retire...
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