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bluetortilla



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:43 am    Post subject: Multi-entry Permits Reply with quote

I was just told by the Chinese Consulate here in Japan that first I need to procure my Z visa, next go to China, then WITHIN 30 DAYS apply for a multi-entry permit if I want one. I would imagine I do since I'll be living next door to HK.

Does that sound right? Any snags to watch for? Expensive?

If you don't have a multi I assume you have to get a permit every single time you leave, and if you forget you can lose your visa. That's how it works around here anyway.
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7969



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not a matter of if you want one, you will need one as the Z visa is only valid for 30 days after entering China. Your school will take you to the local public security office and apply for the residence permit (multi entry visa) for you. You just need to show up, take a photo and sign some forms.
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bluetortilla



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. The consulate didn't know that!
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big_big_bang_theory_fan



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite popular belief, you CAN legally be issued a multiple entry Z visa. It's right there on the application and if you can convince the embassy/consulate to do so - they have the right to do so. This would include conditions such as entering China 30 days prior to actually beginning employment and you intend to enter/exit/re-enter China prior to that date - allowing you to obtain your necessary working and living credentials without the garbage of a Z visa and needing to leave the country.

It's done, been done, and can be documented, though unlikely to be done these days.
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nomad-ish



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so once i have a residence permit, i have multiple re-entries automatically?
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dean_a_jones



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct, the RP will allow you to come and go as you please during its validity.
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nomad-ish



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

great, thanks dean!

i've been planning my vacation for months already Wink
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bluetortilla



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_big_bang_theory_fan wrote:
This would include conditions such as entering China 30 days prior to actually beginning employment and you intend to enter/exit/re-enter China prior to that date - allowing you to obtain your necessary working and living credentials without the garbage of a Z visa and needing to leave the country.


What's all this then? How much time do teachers normally have to prepare for a semester of college English teaching? It helps a lot to get to know the facilities and people!

Shouldn't that be obvious to immigration?
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roadwalker



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluetortilla wrote:
big_big_bang_theory_fan wrote:
This would include conditions such as entering China 30 days prior to actually beginning employment and you intend to enter/exit/re-enter China prior to that date - allowing you to obtain your necessary working and living credentials without the garbage of a Z visa and needing to leave the country.


What's all this then? How much time do teachers normally have to prepare for a semester of college English teaching? It helps a lot to get to know the facilities and people!

Shouldn't that be obvious to immigration?


Just don't leave the mainland, even for Hong Kong, until you have the residency permit in your passport. It won't likely be worth the trouble, even if possible, to get a multi-entry z-visa. Big headache if you leave before you finish the process.

As far as getting to know the school facilities and people, and preparing for the term, that varies by school. Some are more hands on than others. Many have never considered either idea. Hopefully, you'll land in a friendly, organized school that will make you feel confident entering the classroom that first day.
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dean_a_jones



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluetortilla wrote:
big_big_bang_theory_fan wrote:
This would include conditions such as entering China 30 days prior to actually beginning employment and you intend to enter/exit/re-enter China prior to that date - allowing you to obtain your necessary working and living credentials without the garbage of a Z visa and needing to leave the country.


What's all this then?


This is a person who is talking unhelpfully about hypotheticals and technicalities. Most teachers who enter China on a Z visa will do so on a single entry and should not leave again until the paperwork has been processed and they have obtained their RP.

In terms of time, many schools will have you arrive with a weeks notice so you can attend a few meetings, settle in etc. Often they are somewhat flexible on this front, so ask about when classes start and see if you can get yourself in a bit earlier so you have time to get yourself set up, deal with any problems etc. Some schools will give you a plan for your courses and some materials, o