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jayjjasper



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Admittedly, an outrageous event but the idea is not unusual at all.


So data base entry theft is common?


Who would have "thunk" that a question could have raised so much of a ruckus...so I was wondering Whiner with all the pronounced good you do for the masses, did it ever occur to you that a question mark means ... er I don't know .., lets see.. perhaps a question.

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The following is a self-reflection:

I have the correct info., and I am not smug.

I do not need to check my dictionary nor my thesaurus. Simply using the word in a sentence is more than enough for me.

I am not mocking others, I am helping them. I never feel mocked when someone teaches me something I am ignorant of. It would take a pretty fragile person to feel mocked every time someone teaches them something new.

I am not addressing others, I am addressing the message. The message appeared in my eyes to be a certain way and I addressed it. Not the individual.

I do not need to quote a passage from a dictionary or a thesaurus condescendingly in order to make a point about an issue. I simply make a few sentences and consider their usage and context. As a native English speaker, I am able to do just that.

I do not need to attack others in order to make my point. I focus on the content of the message instead.

I am able to post my messages and back them up with facts instead of criticizing others.

I do not go through other's posts and find fault with them and correct them.

I do not go out of my way to nitpick peoples' posts.

I do not spend time on this forum posting things with the intention to make someone else look bad. If someone feels bad about being factually incorrect, attacking me personally does not make them factually correct again.

Finally, I am not a Mod and I do not pretend to me, either. Therefore, I do not normally tell other forum members what to do or how to behave.





Congrats Whiner, This is the first step in recovery. Only 11 steps more ...
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, depends on the usage as per my example. If you use the word in a different sentence you just change the intended meaning as you just did.

Can you also assert that little/small always have the same meaning, no matter usage/context? If so, I fu le you.



ONE QUESTION EXAM:

Please select which one of the four sentences is the least similar in meaning:

A) Please do not feel that it is unusual to see foreigners walking around Beijing.

B) Please do not feel that it is strange to see foreigners walking around Beijing.

C) Please do not feel that it is uncommon to see foreigners walking around Beijing.

D) Please do not feel that it is odd to see foreigners walking around Beijing.

A, B, C, or D?


In the end, only the writer himself-- Baozi man, can decide what Baozi man himself really meant.
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Baozi man



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Admittedly, an outrageous event but the idea is not unusual at all. If you have the might to crush the weak to advance your own interests, use it."

Notice that there are two things mentioned. One is the event which was "outrageous." the other was the idea, which was "not unusual."
Jasper got off to a bad start by reading me to say breaking into data bases was not unusual. That's not what I said. To the contrary. I said that it was outrageous. I then remarked that the idea, which I expanded to reference the strong crushing the weak, was not unusual.

Observers of life have noted that the end of a journey is quite dependent on the beginning of the journey. Here, the beginning was off the mark. Jasper got it wrong.
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jayjjasper



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jasper got off to a bad start by reading me to say breaking into data bases was not unusual. That's not what I said. To the contrary. I said that it was outrageous. I then remarked that the idea, which I expanded to reference the strong crushing the weak, was not unusual.



Me think you protest too much.....

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A while ago, there was an article in China Daily about a PSB officer who stole the identity of a poor student with excellent grades. He, using his security clearance to access school databases, erased the poor girl and put his daughter in her place.

Admittedly, an outrageous event but the idea is not unusual at all.


An excellent example of revisionist English; "Expanded to reference the strong crushing the week", my "tukus" Baozi man...the word unusual references the word event.....and besides I just asked a question.... ...

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Admittedly, an outrageous event but the idea is not unusual at all.


So data base entry theft is common?


So common or uncommon, unusual or usual ...... how often does this kind of event happen, that is where a PSB officer changes the grades of his offspring?

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Can you also assert that little/small always have the same meaning, no matter usage/context? If so, I fu le you.


Really couldn't give a hoot but surely as the sun is gonna rise, I will assert that anyone who brings this up to somehow prove a point is "small"....and in this case "little" would have the same meaning...
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Baozi man



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jasper, my good man,

You asked the wrong question. The data robbery was described as outrageous. The idea of ripping off identity is probably not uncommon; however, few people have the ability to so do. It was my intention to make a distinction, in this case, between the actual theft [outrageous] and the desire to steal [not unusual].

Furthermore, as suggested by my following comment, if more people could steal identities, I'm quite certain they would.

I did not make it clear, at least not to you. I apologize.
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creztor



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

His point is that these lucrative "hired gun" positions are going to become as rare as hen's teeth; however, the upside is that if you do manage to get hooked up, you should be able to charge considerably more considering the amount of effort they are dedicating to stopping such practices. More cheddar cheese for FTs!
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steve b



Joined: 31 May 2011
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought everyone - including me - now knew that foreigners are not "engaged" for such things?
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jaydizzle



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had numerous college students of mine sit for an exam for their friend. Sometimes they do it for free, as a friend, or sometimes they do it for money. I've had many of my students tell me about this. Those that are good at English sit for exams for those who aren't. It's not really considered uncommon, although a few have felt pangs of guilt when I told them I was appalled they would do such a thing. They seem genuinely surprised when I am appalled. To them, it's just another thing, helping their friend out in a time of need, or simply a way to make a bit of extra scratch to pay for a fun night out.

I haven't noticed my administrators or fellow teachers doing such thing, but I'm not going to be nearly naive enough to think that it doesn't happen. Is anyone seriously arguing that somehow after college, these same folks who will lie and cheat throughout their whole academic career will somehow undergo some sort of miraculous conversion and become moral and ethical saints? No way. I'm fairly sure the only reason that I don't observe it among my admins and colleagues is that I simply only have contact with the admins when I need something done, and I don't talk to or socialize with other teachers, because... I dunno, I just don't and have never felt the need to.
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