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Mike E
Joined: 06 Oct 2011 Posts: 132
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:41 am Post subject: insurance contract offered only in Chinese |
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The school that wants me to come teaching English (Zhongshan Torch Polytechnic) sent me (here in the US) a copy of their health insurance contract, but it is only Google translated into English. So it makes no sense. It says things like "Degree of such payment agreed on several insurance premium of pay pay pay half a year on season in pay." I asked for a proper English translation, and she said there isn't one, because "the insurance company refused to provide one."
Is there someone here who would be able to read the Chinese original?
Or do you have some advice? I'm mostly feeling good about this school, but not feeling too good about signing a document I can't read. |
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dean_a_jones

Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 1151 Location: Wuhan, China
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:53 am Post subject: Re: insurance contract offered only in Chinese |
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Mike E wrote: |
The school that wants me to come teaching English (Zhongshan Torch Polytechnic) sent me (here in the US) a copy of their health insurance contract, but it is only Google translated into English. So it makes no sense. It says things like "Degree of such payment agreed on several insurance premium of pay pay pay half a year on season in pay." I asked for a proper English translation, and she said there isn't one, because "the insurance company refused to provide one."
Is there someone here who would be able to read the Chinese original?
Or do you have some advice? I'm mostly feeling good about this school, but not feeling too good about signing a document I can't read. |
Is this health insurance or accident insurance? Are you paying for this or are they? |
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Zimmer
Joined: 26 Oct 2011 Posts: 229
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:54 am Post subject: |
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Why not find a translation service in your city? Or find a Chinese student with decent English who could do it. It may cost you a few bucks but at least you'd be reasonably sure what it says. If you leave it to a bunch of strangers on an internet forum there's no telling what you'll be told. |
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Mike E
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:58 am Post subject: |
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It is "accident injury insurance" and "recreation life accident injury insurance."
I'm currently in a small town in the U.S. There are not Chinese students here to assist me with this. |
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choudoufu

Joined: 25 May 2010 Posts: 3325 Location: Mao-berry, PRC
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:02 am Post subject: |
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did they tell you which insurance company?
i've got an english translation for CCIC
and a website for PICC. |
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Mike E
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:03 am Post subject: |
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They are the policies that the school provides (or offers, I'm not sure which is a more accurate word) to their FTs. The other American currently teaching there told me that the school used to charge them 3000 RMB a year to have the policy, but no longer does.
The school's employment contract has this clause on insurance (which the teacher tells me is largely ignored):
6. Medical insurance and treatment
Personal medical insurance
As required by the National Foreign Specialists Department, Party B is required to purchase medical insurance to cover the costs of medical treatments in China for himself/herself and his/her dependents, including the treatments of serious illnesses and the costs of hospitalization for the whole of the contractual period. (Part B may be exempted from this requirement if she/he can prove to the satisfaction of Party A that she/he has a foreign insurance which provides equivalent and accessible coverage in China while working under the employment of Party A.)
Minor medical treatments
Party A shall pay 70% of the costs involved for any medical treatment of Party B for common illnesses on producing relevant receipts and medical certificate. However, Party A is not liable wholly or partly for the costs of the following items: clinic and hospital registration fees, home visits by doctors, transport for a medical treatment, dental treatment , cosmetic surgery, massage, spectacles, hospitalization and hospital food, health supplements, and treatments for a serious illness. Party A is also not liable for the costs of any medical treatments arisen during the time when Party B is engaged in travelling in non-official capacity. |
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Mike E
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:05 am Post subject: |
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choudoufu,
It says:
友邦安益意外伤害保险
AIA accident injury insurance
So I reckon the company is AIA. |
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7969

Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:06 am Post subject: |
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You can try contacting some other foreigner who might be there right now and ask them about the health insurance policy. You might also have the option of buying your own health insurance from another company if you don't like the policy offered by the school. Our school allows this, as long as we provide proof we actually bought it. |
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Mike E
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:08 am Post subject: |
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Do you think that a travelers insurance policy (bought before leave, negotiated in English) is a good alternative, if the school will accept it? |
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choudoufu

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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:09 am Post subject: |
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there are A1A and AIA insurance companies with websites.
sounds like they bought a basic expat package for around
$500/year.
if they bought chinese insurance (PICC), it would run
1200 RMB annually.
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Mike E
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:14 am Post subject: |
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The current teacher told me the policy costs the school 10,000 RMB a year. |
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choudoufu

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7969

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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:26 am Post subject: |
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Mike E wrote: |
The current teacher told me the policy costs the school 10,000 RMB a year. |
Costs the school that much or costs the teacher? Or do they share the cost? In contrast our school insurance policy costs RMB1200 per year (covers only basic care - nothing extravagant). 10,000 seems way out there and I'd have to question the value of something that expensive.
Mike E wrote: |
Do you think that a travelers insurance policy (bought before leave, negotiated in English) is a good alternative, if the school will accept it? |
Yes, that's what I was getting at. You can get good policies at World Nomads, Travel Cuts, and other companies that specialize in these travel related products. I've used both of the aforementioned companies for long term (~ 6 mos at a stretch) insurance and made claims on both, no claims related problems in my experience (and cheaper than RMB10000). However depending on where you are (or which hospital you deal with) with a foreign policy you might need to pay up front and claim later. China tends to be one of those places. But it can't hurt to ask your school about buying your own insurance. |
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Mike E
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:32 am Post subject: |
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Okay. Seems like it is a choice between 1) the school paying for the insurance, but me not quite understanding the policy; and 2) the school perhaps not agreeing to pay for some other policy, which I at least understand.
A friend is encouraging me to look for insurance that includes things like emergency evac (to Japan, presumably). Have people here sought out that level of coverage? |
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Mike E
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:34 am Post subject: |
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Thanks! I'll look it over. |
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