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Is China now requiring that you have an education degree?

 
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bradwelljackson



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:31 am    Post subject: Is China now requiring that you have an education degree? Reply with quote

So, to teach EFL in China, are the schools now requiring that you not only have a degree, but a degree in education specifically?
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big_big_bang_theory_fan



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not even close to a possibility from the point of view of governmental requirements.

Two years TEACHING experience is required however.

Individual employers are free to make any prerequisites they like however. I've seen many jobs requiring an education degree - and it's about time some actual standard be applied. Employers can do anything they like.


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dean_a_jones



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP - Why do you think that?
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choudoufu



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_big_bang_theory_fan wrote:


Two years TEACHING experience is required however.



is that actually a legal requirement? in all provinces? or is
it just another safea guideline/recommendation. (i was thinking
they only actually require two years of any work experience
after graduation.)

even so, in practice the schools will rewrite your resume when they
submit your application for a work permit. your six weeks of
tutoring your sister in math, or that month of training the parking
lot attendants at wal-mart how to use gloves when picking up
garbage, has somehow become two years of teaching experience.
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mike w



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Two years TEACHING experience is required however.



Not quite correct. In practice, 2 years teaching experience MAY be required depending on which province you go to, and how they interpret the 'rules'.

The degree rule has been in place for at least 15 years that I know of, but again, it is one of those 'rules' that is regularly interpreted in different ways in different provinces and cities.

There are many people teaching in China, seemingly all above board and legal with the correct documents, who had zero experience when they started, and who don't have a a degree.
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bradwelljackson



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the parents of the young students? Are they starting to demand that the teachers have an education degree, specifically? Now that people are getting more affluent in China, are they starting to be more demanding with their teacher's credentials? After all, if they spend all that money, I guess that they reason that they can demand a teacher who meets their idea of being qualified.
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Guerciotti



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bradwelljackson wrote:
What about the parents of the young students? Are they starting to demand that the teachers have an education degree, specifically? Now that people are getting more affluent in China, are they starting to be more demanding with their teacher's credentials? After all, if they spend all that money, I guess that they reason that they can demand a teacher who meets their idea of being qualified.


Have you heard any such demands or read or heard of this somewhere? Who knows? Your guess is as good as mine. are they willing to pay even more for the education degree holders? Who knows?

What if all the Chinese universities began to require PhD or even just Master's degrees for foreign teacher positions? Can you imagine how many universities would have no foreign teachers? I can only speculate, but I think there would be dozens if not hundreds. Who knows?

Wondering out loud is fun.

I hate to sound like a jerk but this sounds like pure speculation for what purpose?
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kimo50



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:25 am    Post subject: Degree Reply with quote

Not so...I just had my Z approved with Ma & BA in History.
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igorG



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's great! Congrats!


mike w wrote:
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Two years TEACHING experience is required however.



Not quite correct. In practice, 2 years teaching experience MAY be required depending on which province you go to, and how they interpret the 'rules'.

The degree rule has been in place for at least 15 years that I know of, but again, it is one of those 'rules' that is regularly interpreted in different ways in different provinces and cities.

There are many people teaching in China, seemingly all above board and legal with the correct documents, who had zero experience when they started, and who don't have a a degree.
This pretty well summarizes the topic.

As for the need of educational degrees, i can't picture such requests for the kinds of positions offered with such expectations on mainland.

In the end, it matters what kind of position you accept and/or what company/school or employer you sign with. The differences on the topic are as large as the gap in between rich and poor in this country. Perhaps that's what drives this economy.
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