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canada_1986



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:36 am    Post subject: Job application forms in Mexico Reply with quote

I have filled out a couple of job application forms for jobs in Mexico, including one at a public university. What I would like to know is why Mexican employers ask for the names, addresses, religions, occupations, and places of employment of all family members including parents, siblings, children, and all four grandparents. They also ask for my religion, and whether I have any chronic medical conditions. These forms never state why they are collecting this information.

I don't mind giving out all that information (since obviously that's how it's done in Mexico if you want a job), but I just find it difficult as a Canadian as our privacy laws prohibit asking for information that is not relevant, and that forms must state why certain information is being collected. I know that for example you don't dare ask about religion in Canada unless you're hiring clergy or a teacher in a religious school. I don't understand the relevance of where my father currently works; what business is it of anyone's?

It's just a curiosity I have.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just the way it's done in Mexico...people here simply don't think the same way we do in Canada (or parts of it anyway)or see much of an issue of asking such questions.

Incidentally, there are some new privacy laws that came out of congress recently and are being implemented in the business world, but they are more about protecting consumer information. I am surprised to see how seriously they are being taken in the Mexico City business world.
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I would never give that information - it's not relevant, and it's none of their business. If a place insists on it, then look for somewhere else to apply. It's not true that "that's the way it's done". There are many more reasonable employers.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If a place insists on it, then look for somewhere else to apply. It's not true that "that's the way it's done".


Ever have the experience of an employer insisting on it?
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, but a lot use the standard application form, which may intimidate the uninitiated with all those questions. I think maybe I've used that, and not answered the questions I didn't want to ... with no problems.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly...most are useless holdover questions from a bygone era that no one ever thinks about or uses.

Real questions with actual repercussions you'd worry about being asked are along the lines of if you have medical issues or plan to have children in the future (if you are a woman). Those affect hiring decisions more than if your father was a pig farmer with the wrong last name in the 19th century.
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Enchilada Potosina



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:28 am    Post subject: Re: Job application forms in Mexico Reply with quote

canada_1986 wrote:
I have filled out a couple of job application forms for jobs in Mexico, including one at a public university. What I would like to know is why Mexican employers ask for the names, addresses, religions, occupations, and places of employment of all family members including parents, siblings, children, and all four grandparents. They also ask for my religion, and whether I have any chronic medical conditions. These forms never state why they are collecting this information.

Hate to sound cynical but I often get the impression they use the information to work out what the minimum they can pay you is.
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canada_1986



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:49 am    Post subject: Re: Job application forms in Mexico Reply with quote

Enchilada Potosina wrote:
canada_1986 wrote:
I have filled out a couple of job application forms for jobs in Mexico, including one at a public university. What I would like to know is why Mexican employers ask for the names, addresses, religions, occupations, and places of employment of all family members including parents, siblings, children, and all four grandparents. They also ask for my religion, and whether I have any chronic medical conditions. These forms never state why they are collecting this information.

Hate to sound cynical but I often get the impression they use the information to work out what the minimum they can pay you is.


So...what's stopping me from lying about my parents' and grandparents' occupations? My father is a manager and my mother is "retired" (she hasn't worked in years although technically she is a nurse), one grandfather was a business owner and the other was a prison warden, and one grandmother was a secretary while the other never worked. Would I be okay, or should I say my mother is an accountant? Very Happy
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Phil_K



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