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Isla Guapa
Joined: 19 Apr 2010
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Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana
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My concern is that I could book a flight to Mexico for early January, and then just before I get there the rules change and I can't get a work visa processed in time. Changing a flight with Air Canada is $75, which on top of the TOEFL certification I still need to take and travelling to Ottawa to get my university degree legalized (I don't have time to wait 8-9 weeks), it just adds up. |
A tourist visa is good for 180 days, and the usual processing time for a work visa is 30 days. I went with a friend in June to get his, and it took 10 days. So I don�t think that needs to be a big worry. Also, you don�t need BOTH your degree and your ESL certificate (you didn�t really mean TOEFL, did you, that�s an exam for non-native speakers of English). You only need one for a work visa, and especially if your degree is not related to ESL, your ESL certificate will be what they want to see. Also, if you are getting that here in Mexico, you don�t need to have it apostilled or anything. |
As usual BBB has given excellent advice. However, canada1986 is concerned that the rules may change by the time he or she arrives in January. What worked for your friend in June may not necessarily work in January. |
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Guy Courchesne
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City
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| Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm due into immigration on Monday...I'll ask them again if anything has changed on the ability to process the paperwork within Mexico, though they told me 3 months ago there would be no change to that specific aspect of the process. |
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Isla Guapa
Joined: 19 Apr 2010
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Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana
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| Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm due into immigration on Monday...I'll ask them again if anything has changed on the ability to process the paperwork within Mexico, though they told me 3 months ago there would be no change to that specific aspect of the process. |
Good luck on Monday, Guy. Maybe you could ask them if they know anything about the new rules and when they'll be going into effect. I'm hoping that after 5 rules on the old FM3, I'll be eligible for what used to be called the FM2. |
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canada_1986
Joined: 23 Nov 2011
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Location: Canada
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| Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| A tourist visa is good for 180 days, and the usual processing time for a work visa is 30 days. I went with a friend in June to get his, and it took 10 days. So I don�t think that needs to be a big worry. Also, you don�t need BOTH your degree and your ESL certificate (you didn�t really mean TOEFL, did you, that�s an exam for non-native speakers of English). You only need one for a work visa, and especially if your degree is not related to ESL, your ESL certificate will be what they want to see. Also, if you are getting that here in Mexico, you don�t need to have it apostilled or anything. |
I'm aware of the old work visa application system, but there were new rules coming into force this fall and someone in another thread noted it was being implemented this past week. In any event I'm going to call the Mexican Consulate on Monday to get things clarified.
Yes, I meant TOEFL - the Harmon Hall I have been in contact with requires a TOEFL certificate for ALL teaching applicants, native or non-native. I'm not sure if that's for the visa application process, as that is the first I've heard of a TOEFL certificate being required for a non-native English speaker.
My TESL certificate was issued by Oxford Seminars in Ontario; therefore, I'm not sure the Canadian government will legalize it as Oxford Seminars does not fall under Ontario's Ministry of Education. My degree is not related to ESL. |
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BadBeagleBad
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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Location: 24.18105,-103.25185
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| Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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I'm aware of the old work visa application system, but there were new rules coming into force this fall and someone in another thread noted it was being implemented this past week. In any event I'm going to call the Mexican Consulate on Monday to get things clarified.
Yes, I meant TOEFL - the Harmon Hall I have been in contact with requires a TOEFL certificate for ALL teaching applicants, native or non-native. I'm not sure if that's for the visa application process, as that is the first I've heard of a TOEFL certificate being required for a non-native English speaker.
My TESL certificate was issued by Oxford Seminars in Ontario; therefore, I'm not sure the Canadian government will legalize it as Oxford Seminars does not fall under Ontario's Ministry of Education. My degree is not related to ESL. |
OK, I thought maybe you had your certicates mixed up. You�ll need to get it apostilled somehow, if you plan on using it to get a visa. And according to everyone I have talked to recently the changes are not in effect yet, and won�t going into effect until January, at the earliest. And I was really only addressed the time aspect, you mentioned that you didn�t want to run out of time, and I was pointing out that it rarely takes more than a month, but let�s say it takes two, even then, 180 days gives you plenty of time. |
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reddevil79
Joined: 19 Jul 2004
Posts: 234
Location: Neither here nor there
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| Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm due into immigration on Monday...I'll ask them again if anything has changed |
That would be appreciated Guy, it'll be interesting to know if anything is changing in the near future. |
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Guy Courchesne
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City
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| Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm due into immigration on Monday...I'll ask them again if anything has changed |
That would be appreciated Guy, it'll be interesting to know if anything is changing in the near future. |
Actually, I can confirm right now that first time filing of the independent form of the work visa is exactly the same as a student of mine (from New Zealand) just filed his this past week. |
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notamiss
Joined: 20 Jun 2007
Posts: 908
Location: El 5o pino del la CDMX
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| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:33 am Post subject: |
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All we know for sure is that the changes that were originally announced to be taking place this month are postponed until �the new year.�
In another forum, I mentioned something about the FM2 and FM3 no longer having those names since over a year ago, and someone answered that in their immigration office the officials were still calling them FM2 and FM3, so �it wasn�t necessarily true that the names were obsolete.� Really, it just goes to show that the officials in the immigration offices are just as uninformed as we are. |
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BadBeagleBad
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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Location: 24.18105,-103.25185
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| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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All we know for sure is that the changes that were originally announced to be taking place this month are postponed until �the new year.�
In another forum, I mentioned something about the FM2 and FM3 no longer having those names since over a year ago, and someone answered that in their immigration office the officials were still calling them FM2 and FM3, so �it wasn�t necessarily true that the names were obsolete.� Really, it just goes to show that the officials in the immigration offices are just as uninformed as we are. |
Yep, when I was there in June with a friend they were still called FM2 and FM3, but when he got his card, it said No Inmigrante, nothing about FM3 (though I didn�t look at it closely).
And, I also predicted that if they new changes didn�t go into effect by November, that it wouldn�t be till the new year. And I didn�t really mean January. People will still be straggling back to work till mid-January. My educated guess is thate like March. Ish. |
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reddevil79
Joined: 19 Jul 2004
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Location: Neither here nor there
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm due into immigration on Monday |
Any news at all Guy? |
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NWBen
Joined: 15 Nov 2009
Posts: 13
Location: Playa del Carmen, Mexico
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:32 am Post subject: I've some experience. Should I get a CELTA? |
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I taught business english for a couple years in Germany and Poland in the 90s and have done a little conversation group leading since then. Spent a couple months in Xela, Guatemala studying spanish last spring and I'd like to improve my spanish.
Any suggestions/recommendations about taking a CELTA/TEFL course in Mexico? I'm not sure but I'd probably want to work in Mexico afterwards. I have enough saved that I could cover my expenses for as long as necessary to take the course and find work. I'm open to any city. |
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Guy Courchesne
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Any news at all Guy? |
Sorry, had to put off the visit to Thursday...I'll report later. |
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