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Do I need to be worried here?
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peewee1979



Joined: 30 Jun 2011
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Location: Once in China was enough. Burned and robbed by Delter and watching others get cheated was enough.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:11 am    Post subject: Do I need to be worried here? Reply with quote

Quick visa question. I have a Z visa that expires on Dec 11. That's 4 days away. The school is processing the FEC through the proper channels but did not receive the book yet.

So I have no resident permit as yet. The said once they get the book they take me to the PSB for the RP visa.

I have a scheduled meeting tomorrow and I will ask the fao the status.

Come 11:59 pm December 11 am I technically illegal?

My last inquiry of this matter brought about a response of "Don't Worry". Of course I do worry.
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therock



Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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Location: China

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What has your incompetent school been doing for the last 25 or so days?
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peewee1979



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Location: Once in China was enough. Burned and robbed by Delter and watching others get cheated was enough.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

therock wrote:
What has your incompetent school been doing for the last 25 or so days?


Typically when I go in the office they are playing QQ or shopping on Taobao.

Next question?
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ymmv



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as the RP application (with the FEC) are in the hands of the PSB by the expiry date, you're OK. The PSB will give you a receipt which will tide you over until they issue the new RP.
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Lobster



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't get the FEC back in time you'll be in trouble and have to ask for a 30-day tourist visa. I don't know why schools always want to try to do things at the last minute. If, as noted, you get the app in before the expiry date, all is well.

RED
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Baozi man



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your situation depends on just where in the RP process your school is. If you have an FEC, etc. and your application for an RP has been handed in to the PSB, evinced by a numbered and dated receipt, no problem.

OTOH, if the people in your FAO office are bungling a timely application, you may be in trouble. What the PSB cares about is the timely application.

Even if your school has bungled your application, you may not need to worry. It depends on where you are and with who in the PSB your FAO has guanxi .

There is a monetary fine associated with visa violations. Unless your school has some big mojo, if the RP is late being applied for, someone is going to pay. If your school has guanxi or the PSB play nice [unlikely], the problem will go away.

People in school FAO offices often don't know what they are doing. After all, rarely are they punished for incompetence. In the case of incompetence which impacts a foreigner, they may even be commended.

If they try to make you pay fines because of their mistake, resist.
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peewee1979



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Location: Once in China was enough. Burned and robbed by Delter and watching others get cheated was enough.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll remind them tomorrow of the importance of this issue.
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w.melon56



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lobster wrote:
If you don't get the FEC back in time you'll be in trouble and have to ask for a 30-day tourist visa. I don't know why schools always want to try to do things at the last minute. If, as noted, you get the app in before the expiry date, all is well.

RED


Please keep in mind that the visa and resident permit are ultimately the responsibility of the passport holder.

So, I would rephrase this person's quote to, "I don't know why the teacher always just waits around and complains rather than ensuring that things are not done at the last minute." Why is the blame suddenly and always thrust upon the employer. This is a good example. The teacher is flatly admitting her knows the expiration of his/her permits but is sitting here four days prior to expiration without the renewal and only now asking what happens next. This should have been take care of a month ago, not now.

"technically illegal?" Expiration is expiration.
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choudoufu



Joined: 25 May 2010
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Location: Mao-berry, PRC

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peewee1979 wrote:
I'll remind them tomorrow of the importance of this issue.


you could print off an itinerary from ctrip or elong, with a flight
scheduled for the evening of the tenth. give this to your fao.

ask him/her to please purchase the ticket for you, as your visa
will expire the morning after your flight leaves, and you must
leave the country.

you could also ask for someone to take your classes the next two
days as you'll be packing and preparing to leave. oh, so much to
do....buying new luggage, mailing packages, closing bank accounts.
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peewee1979



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Location: Once in China was enough. Burned and robbed by Delter and watching others get cheated was enough.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

umm I have a Z visa. leaving would be futile I think
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