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Can my wife work on a family VISA in China?
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jyl2011



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:42 pm    Post subject: Can my wife work on a family VISA in China? Reply with quote

Hi.

A potential employer in China says that my wife can come to China with me on the family VISA. They also say that she will be able to work in China on this family VISA. Is this information true or can anyone shed some more light on this please?

Thank you.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not believe so, although I do know some spouses who got the family visa and came with their spouse and then later flipped their visa to a working one.
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peewee1979



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LEGALLY it's not true. The family visa is just for spouses to come to China.

A friend of mine married a Chinese girl and he has a resident permit for being married but most legitimate employers tell him he needs to change it to a working visa to be legally able to work.

They have typically dropped that request after he tells them no as there are some challenges and requirements to get the family visa / resident permit as a result of marrying a Chinese.

HOWEVER if the police ever check then technically the person is in violation as is the school.

He has been in China 5 years I think and told me he did once get caught working illegally and it was messy. Cost him a bunch of money and a great big hassle - BUT he still works to this day on a marriage visa. ( ps it's not me, but a friend.)
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w.melon56



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no such thing as a family visa. Every person gets there own visa. There is no "single visa" for a family. You will obtain a Z work visa. Family members will get a visa that allows them to enter the country but it does not give them permission for employment. If anyone else wants to work they must also get their own Z work visa with specific purpose of employment and other work credentials. Don't believe what you're being told.
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jyl2011



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If she was to come with me on a family VISA and then find a job, would she then be able to transfer over to a working VISA or that very difficult?
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choudoufu



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

family visa = family VISA

both do not exist. unless i'm mistaken, your family members will
be issued tourist visas valid for the length of your work visa.

whether your wife will be able to get a work VISA without returning
to her country of origin is another matter.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jyl2011 wrote:
If she was to come with me on a family VISA and then find a job, would she then be able to transfer over to a working VISA or that very difficult?


Unable to answer that with such little information.

China is not like say Canada where there is one uniform law and everyone sticks to it. Different locales interpret the law as it suits them best.

Depends on which province and city you are in, how much influence the school has with the PSB, what your wife's nationality is, what she will be working as, who would be sponsoring her, what her academic credential are....)
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Zero



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
there are some challenges and requirements to get the family visa / resident permit as a result of marrying a Chinese.

What do you mean by this?
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jayjjasper



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There is no such thing as a family visa.


I believe that a condition of the L visa can serve as a family visitation visa but that visa may also have the requirement of scheduled (months) crossing of the border to continue validity....
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peewee1979



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero wrote:
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there are some challenges and requirements to get the family visa / resident permit as a result of marrying a Chinese.

What do you mean by this?


Means my friend explained to me over a latte in Starbucks one day. There are parameters he had to meet to get a " I married a Chinese girl" visa.

He had top be in the country a certain amount of time and there were some other requirements he had to meet - I forgot exactly what he told me but it wasn't as simple as going to the psb and saying " I'm hitched gimmie a visa".

And they told him it is not a legal working visa. It allows him to stay in the country but no legal right to work.
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Opiate



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peewee1979 wrote:

Means my friend explained to me over a latte in Starbucks one day. There are parameters he had to meet to get a " I married a Chinese girl" visa.

He had top be in the country a certain amount of time and there were some other requirements he had to meet - I forgot exactly what he told me but it wasn't as simple as going to the psb and saying " I'm hitched gimmie a visa".

And they told him it is not a legal working visa. It allows him to stay in the country but no legal right to work.


1. it is not a legal working visa.
2. It is as simple as going to the PSB and saying "Hey! I be married!!!" *

I am on a proper working visa now but a week after I was married in China I had a spousal L. My wife needed to scribble on paper that she is indeed my wife. Other than that it was all normal paperwork.


*Perhaps it varies like everything else here. I guess for me the phase of the moon was appropriate for paperwork.
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jayjjasper



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is as simple as going to the PSB and saying "Hey! I be married!!!" *


I think in china .. there is a requirement of an affidavit stating no active marriage exist and certified by your embassy .. but it may not be observed in all provinces...
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dean_a_jones



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you do need a "Certificate of No Impediment" which basically states you are single. You can get this from your embassy, then you do pretty much show up with that, your identification and a photo and then you sign the docs and are married.
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wangdaning



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think what is being referred to with the marriage thing is getting issued a long term (or permanent) residence permit. You have to be here so long, and be married so long, and some other things (been a while since I looked). It doesn't allow you to work, just to stay long term.

I think accompanying family members get an L for entry which is changed to a residence permit. They don't have to leave the country every few months, like on an L, but they are not allowed to work legally.
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Opiate



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jayjjasper wrote:
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It is as simple as going to the PSB and saying "Hey! I be married!!!" *


I think in china .. there is a requirement of an affidavit stating no active marriage exist and certified by your embassy .. but it may not be observed in all provinces...


Yes. This is correct. However this is done before the marriage and not related to the PSB.
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