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Cyberkada



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:37 am    Post subject: English Corner Reply with quote

I'm a math/ science brain and not a English brain. I have been tasked to do an English Corner once a week. I don't want to sound stupid and I have read the forums but what does one do there exactly? i.e. whats the formula for success?
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steve b



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion they are an utter waste of time. However most of us have to endure them and in fairness, provided they are at the request of the students rather than faculty, you should at least get some interest.

Have a topic and a couple or three students to assist. Perhaps give a short talk on your topic, maybe take some questions and then mingle. The assistants should do that in other pockets. Don't stay with one group too long and make sure you get to chat with all attendees even if only briefly.

Once a week (to me at least) sounds far too often unless there is more than one group? If my experience is anything to go by, once the evenings start to get lighter and the temperature warmer you may find they die a death. Enthusiasm for them also seems to depend on the intake (it is almost always freshmen) and in large part the student organisers.

The students will though appreciate your devotion to duty out of working hours and should not be underestimated!
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viola_taylor_china



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is it that "most of us have to endure them" ? You seem to have committed yourself contractually to them. Not me.

English corner is a simple concept - based off English (England) street corner discussions. Read Google search results for the concept/history. It essentially means to sit with a group and have free discussion.
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steve b



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I am not contractually obliged but I do try to do my best for my students and endeavour to attend as many of their events as possible.

I am not completely uneducated in the concept of corners so I will pass on the suggestion to revise using Google thanks.

If an FT elects not to take part in corners then of course unless it is part of the package they are free to refuse. As I suggested, student goodwill is something a few FTs might cherish - others clearly not.
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7969



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:42 am    Post subject: Re: English Corner Reply with quote

Cyberkada wrote:
I'm a math/ science brain and not a English brain. I have been tasked to do an English Corner once a week. I don't want to sound stupid and I have read the forums but what does one do there exactly? i.e. whats the formula for success?

A lot of English corners are a waste of time because too many schools put the onus of preparation on the foreign teacher. When this happens you almost inevitably end up with a lone foreigner standing inside a circle of students peppering him/her with the same lame questions week after week - Are you married? Can you use chopsticks? Do you like China?

Instead, if the English corner is student centred (students come up with a weekly theme, make suitable preparations, set up games, have some refreshments on hand, advertise it) then people (incl. FTs) will show up and actually enjoy it. This is the format we follow and our school has consistently good English corners.
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Cyberkada



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:24 pm    Post subject: Re: English Corner Reply with quote

7969 wrote:
Cyberkada wrote:
I'm a math/ science brain and not a English brain. I have been tasked to do an English Corner once a week. I don't want to sound stupid and I have read the forums but what does one do there exactly? i.e. whats the formula for success?

A lot of English corners are a waste of time because too many schools put the onus of preparation on the foreign teacher. When this happens you almost inevitably end up with a lone foreigner standing inside a circle of students peppering him/her with the same lame questions week after week - Are you married? Can you use chopsticks? Do you like China?

Instead, if the English corner is student centred (students come up with a weekly theme, make suitable preparations, set up games, have some refreshments on hand, advertise it) then people (incl. FTs) will show up and actually enjoy it. This is the format we follow and our school has consistently good English corners.


found out after my first one tonight. The Chinese regular teacher didn't want to do the study period anymore so the FTs have to do English Corner as a replacement... Same students as my Maths/ CS/ Business classes. So boring as .... welll you know the word.

Its 5x a week, with us FTs taking each a day... haist!


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Baozi man



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have willingly participated in several hundred English corners. They can be fun, as long as you retain control. Make it clear that the EC is not about you, the FT. Personal questions are out of bounds. It is a time for free discussion on various topics. Your job is to facilitate. Students generally like a topic.

I talk about things which interest me, don't tolerate rudeness or students arguing in Chinese, or interrupting other students who are talking.

English corners epitomize the whole reason we are here, to provide opportunities for English learners to communicate in English.
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7969



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want some idea of what a decent English corner looks like send me a PM with your email and I'll send you some photos.
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Cyberkada



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

7969 wrote:
If you want some idea of what a decent English corner looks like send me a PM with your email and I'll send you some photos.


On the way... I was kinda disappointed as I found out it was with my regular students in their regular classroom... I wanted the extra adventure and "fresh meat" to talk with. I think their IELTS results came in and they were not excellent... 4s, 5s and 6s mainly... (I don't know what that means)
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kev7161



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How is it that "most of us have to endure them" ? You seem to have committed yourself contractually to them. Not me.

English corner is a simple concept - based off English (England) street corner discussions. Read Google search results for the concept/history. It essentially means to sit with a group and have free discussion.


Ladies and gents: DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!


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7969



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah but he's got another 100 or so handles already lined up. Might as well make use of them. good for another couple of years I'd say.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

7969 wrote:
Yeah but he's got another 100 or so handles already lined up. Might as well make use of them. good for another couple of years I'd say.


Yet another thing we can agree on.
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7969



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Great Wall of Whiner wrote:
7969 wrote:
Yeah but he's got another 100 or so handles already lined up. Might as well make use of them. good for another couple of years I'd say.


Yet another thing we can agree on.

Yep, no matter what happens we'll always have big bang theory fan, w.melon56, viola taylor china (those three were just this week) and 50, 000 other one hit wonders to bind us together.
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choudoufu



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

7969 wrote:
The Great Wall of Whiner wrote:
7969 wrote:
Yeah but he's got another 100 or so handles already lined up. Might as well make use of them. good for another couple of years I'd say.


Yet another thing we can agree on.

Yep, no matter what happens we'll always have big bang theory fan, w.melon56, viola taylor china (those three were just this week) and 50, 000 other one hit wonders to bind us together.


but why? it must get boring after the first hundred or so bannings.

@cyberk---it's english corner, have fun! show a short video...do a
weekly installment of a popular teevee show, or download groovy
stuff off youtube. make popcorn. discuss the film afterwards.
bring in your oven and teach 'em how to make cookies. let them
pick topics and prepare debates. it's not supposed to be just
another class. are you required to stay in the classroom? can
you hold your englrish corners on the sports field, in the park, etc.?
can you take 'em to a local market and have them explain the
fruits and veggies, and how to bargain?
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7969



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

choudoufu wrote:
7969 wrote:
The Great Wall of Whiner wrote:
7969 wrote:
Yeah but he's got another 100 or so handles already lined up. Might as well make use of them. good for another couple of years I'd say.

Yet another thing we can agree on.

Yep, no matter what happens we'll always have big bang theory fan, w.melon56, viola taylor china (those three were just this week) and 50, 000 other one hit wonders to bind us together.

but why? it must get boring after the first hundred or so bannings.

Some people collect stamps, others are interested in photography, some people like to smoke and drink to pass the time. Still others like to sign up for online forums and get banned every day.
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